Parts of American culture that have never really been imported outside the US

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wait, what about maple syrup? we bathe in that stuff here. but do they maple elsewhere? seriously, millions of gallons of it every year in north america.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:50 (seven years ago) link

Not much maple syrup over here, ime.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link

okay, you definitely need more of that. the good stuff anyway.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

I speak as a Britisher who has always done toasted sandwiches in the frying pan, until my wife got tired of the smoky kitchen and bought me a sandwich press

mahb, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link

doesn't have to be smoky though. just even medium heat and butter the bread before you put it on pan. takes like 5 minutes. and cover the pan.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link

so, wait, challah bread french toast with cinnamon and powdered sugar and real maple syrup not a part of a european's balanced breakfast?

one of life's great greatnesses. strawberries and blueberries optional.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link

We don't have maple syrup but we do have this stuff, tho it doesn't seem as popular as it once was. Classic tin:

http://www.englishteastore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/F/C/FCO_TAT_SYRP907_-00_Tate-and-Lyles-Golden-Syrup-Tin-2lb-907g.jpg

Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:22 (seven years ago) link

it is £6.49 for a small bottle of buckwud maple syrup in my local co-op. I love the stuff but I'll only spend that much on booze or steal it.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link

when maple syrup mixes with the sauce of baked beans + with pancakes and bacon it is so nice.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

French toast increasingly available in London cafes. Best I've had maybe at The Blue Legume in Islington (served with plums and creme fraiche) but also recently at 384 in Brixton.

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

French toast was a savoury dish when I was growing up.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

We had eggy bread which was savoury but it's not the same thing as French toast. And yeah ketchup plus actual French toast sounds disgusting tbh.

I was skeptical of maple syrup on bacon/sausages but it is actually delicious!

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

Eggy bread is the same as French toast though?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

French toast, also known as eggy bread, Bombay toast, German toast, gypsy toast, poor knights, or Spanish toast, is a dish made of bread soaked in milk, then in beaten eggs and then fried

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link

I was informed French toast had to have sweet stuff on it like icing sugar/syrup/fruit juice etc? I.e. not just plain eggy bread. Deceived again!

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link

wait, what about maple syrup? we bathe in that stuff here. but do they maple elsewhere? seriously, millions of gallons of it every year in north america.

― scott seward, Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

urge to reread news stories about QUEBEC MAPLE SYRUP HEIST. it's liquid gold!

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

French toast increasingly available in London cafes. Best I've had maybe at The Blue Legume in Islington (served with plums and creme fraiche) but also recently at 384 in Brixton.

― nashwan, Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:33 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds like a good french toast setup

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

my mum used to make me french toast when i was about 5 or 6, and she grew up in a rural part of the south of ireland, i imagine it's been outside the us for many moons.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I really want a crepe place to open near meso I can have sweet crepes for breakfast and savory crepes every other meal

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

I have some relatives from Yorkshire who always called it eggy bread, and are therefore probably happy to consider it two different dishes, but it was always French toast in my (Liverpool & Kent) household.

And the idea of maple syrup mixing with baked bean juice really does make me feel a bit sick. Probably ok in reality, but not keen to try.

The other culinary translation problem living with Americans was the old pancake = crepe, scotch pancake / drop scone = pancake thingy.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Also I always hated the name 'eggy bread' for some reason

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

we don't really do crepes here with the exception of specific restaurants, it's almost exclusively a pancake country

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

my mum used to make me french toast when i was about 5 or 6, and she grew up in a rural part of the south of ireland, i imagine it's been outside the us for many moons.

Since the 4th or 5th century, apparently.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Also I always hated the name 'eggy bread' for some reason

I think we called it "egg toast" but that's the common name for it apparently

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link

beans and syrup makes sense if you like boston baked beans with molasses. which reminds me i was reading about this sticky situation the other day.

https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114442_1634984573473752_5585640463727518990_n.jpg?oh=fe09e02db39e9be6263968da1f47112f&oe=59074331

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

when my mom made crepes she called them swedish pancakes.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Also I always hated the name 'eggy bread' for some reason

this, as well as "cheese toasties" makes me think the UK must have a cutesy name for every common food.
"Are you making hot dogs?"
"What's a hot dog? These are Piggy Wiggy Cakes."

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link

eggy bread sounds like that moronic adspeak "melty cheese"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

when my mom made crepes she called them swedish pancakes

That's what they're called on the IHOP menu also

Josefa, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

genuinely shocked to learn that people in the states grew up eating maple syrup

my understanding was that the stuff down in the states was pancake syrup, which was made of artificially flavoured high fructose corn syrup

i always thought maple syrup went mainstream relatively recently (15-20 years or so) in the states

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

the image of american syrup i had growing up:

http://www.auntjemima.com/images/products/syrups/original.png

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

pancake syrup started as a downmarket maple syrup afaik?

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

If you’re wondering where Aunt Jemima or Log Cabin syrup fit into this picture — these common table products are not real maple syrup. The tagline for Log Cabin, which is made with sugar, is “Authentic Maple Tasting Syrup for over 120 years.” This careful wording is intentional and crafted to avoid false advertising claims. (Most brands of maple-flavored pancake toppings are made with corn syrup.)

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Revolting garbage.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

There might be a class divide on real maple syrup, and/or even more so a geographical one. The Northeast and Northern Midwest are places that maple syrup actually comes from. Some ppl still use the fake stuff but probably fewer than elsewhere in the country, particularly in Southern states. However it's true that even in the north, inexpensive diners and truck stop-type places they probably only have fake.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I will use whatever is provided with few complaints but would be confused if a nicer place had the fake stuff

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

When I was a kid we used cheap shit (Aunt Jemima, etc.) 'cause we were poor, but one year we went on vacation to Vermont and fucking loaded up on real maple syrup.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

my son practically mainlines Mrs. Butterworth syrup. I don't really get it. We have real maple syrup, but he refuses to touch it.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

The cheap stuff is sweeter than the real thing. Kids like sweetness more than complexity.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

i grew up in new england and i've had plenty of both. living in western mass however is just a way more syrupy existence. it's everywhere. vermont right down the street. maple soda. maple candy. even the TREES are made of maple.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

Even though we lived close enough to maple sugar bushes that we went there on field trips, I ate that cheap pancake syrup shit growing up in Ottawa too tbh. I knew, even as a kid, that it was garbage compared to the real thign.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

*thing

Ha, yeah, my neighbourhood coffee shop in Worcester makes a maple cappuccino with Vermont maple syrup. It's sort of gross tbh but I admire the spirit.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

i had real maple syrup growing up in northeast ohio. it's pretty good syrup here. most of this part of the state is wooded so it is readily available. i also liked the fake stuff growing up too.

i lived in new england for 9 years and real vermont syrup was everywhere, it was great. but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

you can get maple syrup in pretty much any big french or english supermarket. bordeaux even has a skate shop called "sirop d'erable" - https://www.yelp.de/biz/sirop-d-erable-bordeaux

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

also the majority of maple syrup is produced in canada

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

i almost feel like fake syrup goes best with fake waffles. eggos + corn syrup just makes more sense.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

"but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"

in the diner i go to in town you have to ask for the "real" syrup. costs extra.

all the good stuff that i buy here at the supermarket is local mass/vermont stuff. it's awesome.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

i would take you guys to all these sugar house breakfasts if you visited. yuuuuuuuum.

https://70c97aaea282a207d81b-f84eee09323602e80e90b9678fa5fc9b.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sugarhouse.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

also the majority of maple syrup is produced in canada

― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:25 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right. it is actually hard to find real VT or other US maple syrup in regular grocery stores. even in whole foods it's mostly canadian stuff

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link


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