1 mana instant kill for goyf thru tks seems like it will have some application?
for this limited otoh it could really be a common
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link
xp if you mean fatal push, then yeah it's clearly a constructed staple in all formats. seems like it has the biggest potential impact on modern.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
in the current race-to-the-bottom modern metagame it's really close to a path to exile without the downside
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link
2 more days worth of previews and they're still all great wtf is going on
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link
wow @ Gifted Aetherborn, that's a pretty powerful uncommon
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link
the cards seem strong in general and also kind of all over the place. lots going on
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
yeah the part i like is they're all narrow effects, theres no smugglers copter here that's obviously going to step on the toes of everything else
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
the blue Expertise is worrying though, that's the sort of card that could invalidate a lot of stuff if it ends up being good in standard
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
dunno if it's in the same league as Copter but Aethersphere Harvester seems really good
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
I could see that Expertise being pretty sweet in my Panharmonicon deck
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
yeah harvester is quite good
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
I dig the "you may play a card costing X or less from your hand" mechanic a lot, seems like a fixed version of the Urza's Saga "free" spells
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
i think about half of the currently previewed cards ought to see standard play, which is an incredible rate.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
severely disappointed in them reprinting Atog but not calling it Atog
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
on the other hand, a legendary pirate that produces a monkey token
― frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2017 01:25 (seven years ago) link
geist of saint traft has fallen on hard times
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link
that whole legendary creature cycle is going straight into my cube, they're all fantastic
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 02:33 (seven years ago) link
anyone else gonna be at gp louisville?
― iatee, Friday, 6 January 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link
Man I love that 3/4 green elephant for G. I get nostalgic for Rogue Elephant every time they print a 3 power creature for G, but this one actually seems good. I love that you can beat down or do some energy shenanigans, with some restrictions (I know you can't go above 2 energy with it)
― Vinnie, Friday, 6 January 2017 07:01 (seven years ago) link
full set is up: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/aether-revolt
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link
man, that was fast
― frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
"Caught in the Brights", looooool
― frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link
http://media.wizards.com/2016/c1lRLirbrl_AER/en_50506d5iUZ.pngthis guy can one-shot people if you have a wandering fumarole
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
whoa, that is a strange ability to put on a card
― frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link
interesting! am i crazy to think this is one of the best build arounds we have seen for a while:http://media.wizards.com/2016/c1lRLirbrl_AER/en_T6xS2dXGa4.png
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
did you miss the part where you sac it? i wouldn't call it a build-around, it's more of a niche tool for black energy & revolt decks.
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link
oh lol. i knew something didn't add up. that would be ridiculous.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
red and black look like the best colors to me on first pass. the red common 2-drop is insane and could end up being a higher pick than the (quite good) removal spells since it's the only one and thus an important bottleneck.
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
omg @ saheeli rai + felidar guardian
standard splinter twin is back baby
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
lol amazing
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
that is a legitimately good combo for standard, theres tutors for both halves and she even helps find the felidar
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
haha i got as far as felidar guardian in the card image gallery and was like ....
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
its also on-color with reflector mage which gets re-triggered by both halves of the combo to buy you forever time
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
i like how it's doable in limited this time too
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link
yeah. will probably work on this for standard & see if i can make it competitive. surprised by the # of strong non-creature effects in aether revolt. was already obv excited to test for prague/dublin but am really hopefully this limited/std ends up being interesting
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
looks like some strong cards for green aggro in constructed. no idea how easy it will be to get revolt early in standard, presumably not that trivial?
was confused at first by the junky looking do-nothing uncommon artifact that brings along a servo for 2 generic but i guess it's there for turbo improvise. still, essentially strictly worse than the white puzzleknot. improvise makes servo expedition seem less lame too i guess.
a few ways to make vehicles creatures outside of crewing. most pretty ropey admittedly but might force reevaluation of some of the huge garbage vehicles out of KLD.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link
you can make the 1 mana 7/11 vehicle into a 10/11 first strike on turn 3 with the red aura. seems pretty janky outside of limited though
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
revolt seems kinda tricky to turn on in standard, like that G deathtouch guy is pretty strictly a plant for modern zoo type decks
― ciderpress, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link
Greenwheel Liberator seems like it could see Modern play too. it's better than Goyf in the early turns
I thought I'd spec on Saheeli but I'm too late. it's already up to around 8 tix
― Vinnie, Saturday, 7 January 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link
yeah way too late, it's spiked pretty hard. i'm trying to identify other new interactions that could be good in standard but there's nothing anywhere near as in-your-face as that one
― ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link
So...
Announcement Date: January 9, 2017Effective Date: January 20, 2017Magic Online Effective Date: January 11, 2017Standard:Emrakul, the Promised End is banned.Smuggler's Copter is banned.Reflector Mage is banned.Modern:Gitaxian Probe is banned.Golgari Grave-Troll is banned.
Effective Date: January 20, 2017
Magic Online Effective Date: January 11, 2017
Standard:
Emrakul, the Promised End is banned.
Smuggler's Copter is banned.
Reflector Mage is banned.
Modern:
Gitaxian Probe is banned.
Golgari Grave-Troll is banned.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Definitely have mixed feelings about these. Emrakul was a pain to play against, and I'm glad I sold every copy I opened. Still think Marvel would have made more sense to ban instead. I'm bummed about Copter as I've played a bunch of different decks since Kaladesh and all of them had Copter. Of course, that's probably exactly why it got banned. Don't really know why they banned Mage, except there may be some new combo that they are preemptively stopping. Not really sure that banning Gitaxian Probe will make a huge difference. I get Golgari Grave-Troll, Dredge is pretty ridiculous right now.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
ok so I have like 6 Copters on MTGO and don't play constructed...should I sell ASAP while they're still legal for a bit or are they worth somehow holding on to? sucks that the one money rare (non-mythic) got nerfed.
― frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
They're already pretty much worthless since it goes into effect in 2 days on mtgo, take your ticket each or whatever if you can get it
― ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
Probably a lot of ink spilled over this already, all I'll say is that historically standard bannings only happen when there's a significant downturn in tournament attendance at the local level. It's not just about power level of cards, it's about optics and getting people reinterested in a format they didn't want to play
― ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
it seems like they've really been clutching at straws regarding Standard FNM attendance. First the change to rotation, then Saturday Showdown, and now this. Hopefully it's working. Standard attendance in Austin has improved over the Origins - Oath period, but it still could be better. I'm seeing Modern pull in more people than Standard at some shops, and now a bunch of Frontier events are popping up.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
i still think a good standard season and/or good modern season might just kill all momentum that frontier has, it feels like such a reactionary format
― ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
also i suspect if it ever became official they'd start it at origins rather than m15 since having yet another format's accessibility bottlenecked by fetchlands is not ideal
― ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
it's true that it may not last or that wizards may support something similar but slightly different. For now though, I'm sleeving up a frontier deck to run on Wednesday night and it has Smuggler's Copter and Reflector Mage!
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link
I like the Probe ban, it's similar to the Mental Misstep ban. It's a card that gets chucked into too many decks, and a small reason why Modern can feel repetitive. It's not busted but I think overall Modern will be more fun without it
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link