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― scott seward, Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link
who is donating thousands of dollars to jill stein's recount campaign in the middle of the night?
Can't decide if this is just Jill being Jill or did the Clintons make her an offer she couldn't refuse...anyone with any sense had to realize they wouldn't go quietly into that good night. Remember when everyone jumped down Trump's throat for saying he'd wait and see what he'd do if he lost?
Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving. "First they came for the Native Americans and I didn't speak up", indeed...
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
There's a thing with DC liberals not wanting to be seen as 'unseemly' which prevents many of them from attacking things everybody knows are criminal, dodgy or unfair. Pretty sure it would be considered unseemly for HRC or her campaign chiefs to advocate on behalf of herself in this situation.
― jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
Liberals have morals, conservatives do not, is basically what it boils down to at this point.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
So how many actual billionaires has this chord appointed so far? Two? Three?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
President-elect Donald Trump has received two classified intelligence briefings since his surprise election victory earlier this month, a frequency that is notably lower — at least so far — than that of his predecessors, current and former U.S. officials said.A team of intelligence analysts has been prepared to deliver daily briefings on global developments and security threats to Trump in the two weeks since he won. Vice President-elect Mike Pence, by contrast, has set aside time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials said.Officials involved in the Trump transition team cautioned against assigning any significance to the briefing schedule that the president-elect has set so far, noting that he has been immersed in the work of forming his administration, and has made filling key national security posts his top priority.But others have interpreted Trump’s limited engagement with his briefing team as an additional sign of indifference from a president-elect who has no meaningful experience on national security issues and was dismissive of U.S. intelligence agencies’ capabilities and findings during the campaign.A senior U.S. official who receives the same briefing delivered to President Obama each day said that devoting time to such sessions would help Trump get up to speed on world events.“Trump has a lot of catching up to do,” the official said.
A team of intelligence analysts has been prepared to deliver daily briefings on global developments and security threats to Trump in the two weeks since he won. Vice President-elect Mike Pence, by contrast, has set aside time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials said.
Officials involved in the Trump transition team cautioned against assigning any significance to the briefing schedule that the president-elect has set so far, noting that he has been immersed in the work of forming his administration, and has made filling key national security posts his top priority.
But others have interpreted Trump’s limited engagement with his briefing team as an additional sign of indifference from a president-elect who has no meaningful experience on national security issues and was dismissive of U.S. intelligence agencies’ capabilities and findings during the campaign.
A senior U.S. official who receives the same briefing delivered to President Obama each day said that devoting time to such sessions would help Trump get up to speed on world events.
“Trump has a lot of catching up to do,” the official said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-turning-away-intelligence-briefers-since-election-win/2016/11/23/5cc643c4-b1ae-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link
his ineptitude plus the buyer's remorse that is likely to show itself in six months is the only silver lining, if it even is that.
mid-terms are going to be tough too, gotta put a lot of effort into getting at least one branch of Congress back.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link
xxp:Needs to be mentioned (again and again), the Voting Rights Act, and in particular the 1982 amendments to it passed by a Democratic congress, were the best thing to happen to the Republican party. A legal mandate to create 50% minority districts gave a lot of minority legislators job security, but wiped out Democratic representation in the 'burbs. Add in the benefits of incumbency, and the general election hasn't been competitive in most of the country's legislative races for the past 26 years.
There's been discussions in the voting rights legal literature of that reducing the mandate (I've seen 30% minority), would expand the effective political power of minorities, but its up to the Federal judiciary, and that means we're screwed.
― Surrounded by 62,212,752 fools + 7,143,756 morons (Sanpaku), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
Yep. Read Ari Berman's Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
There is no chance the Dems is getting any branch of government back. Not unless they win the Louisiana runoff now. There are eight GOP seats up, and while Nevada should be doable, and perhaps Arizona with a lot of effort, which one out of Mississippi, Nebraska, Tennessee, Texas, Utah or Wyoming is even remotely plausible?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
The Dems should mount a challenge against Ted Cruz, if only to build up a Democrat base in Texas for the future. There's also a distinct possibility that the longer the people of Texas get to know Ted Cruz, the more repulsed they are of him, like anyone else who has ever spent time with the guy.
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
Would Cecile Richards be interested?
― Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
x-post: I also imagine Orrin Hatch has to retire this time? If so, Utah should be without an incumbent, and should definitely be ripe for at least a stronger democratic state party building on distaste for Trump. So there's a lot to do, and a shitload of seats to be defended against, but realistically no hope of a senate takeover.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
Cecile Richards would be a disaster and discouraging.
If anything, the Castro Twins should be looked at it.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
as far as Democrats have no shot in 2018 yada yada yada - there's no telling what might befall the country before then. This is shaping up to be the most corrupt administration in history - two months before inauguration.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
strike the 'it'
It will be a great test of our country, that is for sure. Like the commercial that determines whether a suitcase can survive being thrown around by a gorilla.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
Cecile unfortunately would spend the entire campaign being called a racist baby-killer only to have her ass handed to her by the most hated man in DC
― will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
jill stein recount up to 3.3 mil.
― Mordy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
what if she's doing this bc she knows that there will be evidence of russian vote tampering. even one smoking gun, even if there was no evidence that it changed the results, would throw the entire system into disarray.
milo, yeah, anything can happen, but again, the map is that D has 25 seats and R has 8 up for election in 2018, and D has to get three more, so... And the house... How to get over the gerrymandering? Perhaps state elections is the best way to go, if anyone wanted to do something useful, put a calendar together for the next state elections.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
Most of those Dem seats are pretty safe unless the country has somehow gone full Triumph of the Will, in which case we're all painfully fucked anyway.
It looks bad but it's not as bad 25 to 8.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
It's literally 25 to 8.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
The popular vote total is going to wind up with about 2.5 million more for Clinton.
This is a Constitutional crisis. The electoral college should not vote Trump in.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
And yet, if they don't, we will have a constitutional crisis.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
Tbh neither scenario presents a constitutional crisis since in both cases the EC would be acting within its constitutional bounds. Getting faithless electors to throw the election to the House (which would be extremely extremely unlikely, tho easier if Stein's recounts ended up flipping a state or two) would maybe put a lot of congresspeople in awkward no-win positions politically, but constitutionally it's all accounted for. Whether disgruntled partisans see it that way is another story, obv.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
Only state elections in 2017 are in Virginia and New Jersey. Can't imagine any R following Christie, but if anyone wants to prepare for midterms, there must be some seats in the Virginia house up for grabs. And D governor is term limited.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
and mayor of Seattle! Our current democrat is pretty weaksauce, hopefully we'll elect a better democrat
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
This seems like a good place to start:
https://www.flippable.org
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
at least we have a president who understands the face is everything guide to the internet ! am i right
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
https://www.flippable.org/
can't hurt
and there's this guyhttp://www.vice.com/read/house-of-cards-beau-willimon-call-to-action
― will, Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
Also, anyone joined that Sanders thing, Our Revolution? Does it do anything?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
It sates my liberal self-satisfaction!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
Saw a talk by Jenna Lowenstein (HRC campaign Digital Director) today - in addition to screening the intro video the campaign made for HRC's entrance, had she won on the night - spooky and sad alt history - [...]― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:26 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:26 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa, i would love to see this - any chance it'll go public?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
xp no idea - although she said we were the first to see it and it'll probably never be seen, I can't imagine they would release it. It was a mood piece tracking people going to vote, expressions of hope and excitement, leading to a statement about doing it together. Major emphasis was on diversity. Entirely predictable in mood / content, but I found it very poignant as you might expect. It was shown at a campaigner / organiser conference in Sydney, Australia and Lowenstein was here to speak in person. It visibly affected her to watch it as well.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 25 November 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc
― Treeship, Friday, 25 November 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html
this is a little light on evidence (the report comes out tomorrow) but is pretty scary
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 November 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link
I guess the Chechen-backed Clinton fake news machine just didn't stand a chance.
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 25 November 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link
I thought this was interesting, examining how stupid it would be to build an even bigger US Navy when the CIC doesn't care for the things that having near-total control of 71% of the Earth's surface is supposed to be good for:
http://thediplomat.com/2016/11/a-us-navy-with-350-ships-but-what-for/
But basically if you've had enough of pieces explaining why Trump's positions make no sense and are stupid, you can skip it
― El Tomboto, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Basically at this point this is largely a phoney war - the people we can't get reliable information from about what Donald Trump will do are a)anyone who isn't him and b) anyone who is.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
RT stories are really abundant through google searches. I've also seen high profile figures interviewed there, and it generally looks very official. Is that a propaganda outlet?
― Treeship, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307521-report-trump-team-wants-romney-to-apologize
lol?
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/22/we-dont-need-the-fcc-a-trump-advisers-proposal-to-dissolve-americas-telecom-watchdog/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw5&wpmm=1
good-bye net neutrality
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
black lols on a black friday: http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/25/news/trump-black-friday-sale/index.html
― 龜, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
― Treeship, Friday, November 25, 2016 8:49 AM (yesterday)
AHAHAHAH
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
tbf it's probably too sophisticated to be called a "propaganda outlet" and some of its reporting is good, but it is 100% state-run media.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
So anyone else feeling like recount is a massive waste of time and resources right now? Anything that doesn't have "2018" in it, other than maybe Foster Campbell's senate run, is not of interest to me.
This kinda throws it into sharp relief:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-identity-politics-trump-election-20161123-story.html
"You can blame us self-absorbed Berkeley liberals for the election results — but not our identity politics"
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:25 PM (three days ago)
I have no idea where she's getting the things the left weren't saying to the "far left" because for over a month leading up to the election my fb feed was 75% back and forth arguing between people on the left and "far left" saying the things she says they weren't saying. Granted there were plenty of people that just avoided social media because they didn't want to deal with their friends having these arguments. But it's very WTF that this writer is saying that these arguments weren't happening.
― sarahell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
Are you kidding? The Clinton Coup has begun right on time. They've been gaming this since Team Hillary cancelled the fireworks 3 days before election night. With the recount, Jill gets her 5% and Hillary gets installed somehow. You think I'm wrong? Remember, I told y'all Hillary would lose. The only questions now are, how does Podesta pull it off and will we have a Civil War? Hope you're happy.
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
xx-post: Virginia state legislature. New Jersey gubernatorial election. Plenty more stuff to do before 2018!
Also, how the fuck did 'gubernatorial' become a word?
― Frederik B, Saturday, 26 November 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link