2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

DMX interview could not have come at a better time thank u maxxx <3

Obama releasing his response through the Huffington Post seems like a good strategy.

He's also going to appear on Olbermann, Hannity & Colmes, and AC360 I think.

hannity & colmes?!!

yeah this is what I hear.

I dunno if that's such a good idea

obama's christian god will surely protect him, much as he protected daniel in the den of lions, amen

I think he sent it out to a bunch of outlets, not just HuffPo. Some dude on CBN has posted it with "Obama has sent us a statement here" blah blah blah.

I dunno if that's such a good idea

it's about time he appeared on one of the wingnut shows! If he's in good form, he'll destroy Hannity as casually as Hitchens did last year.

HuffPost lists it as "Obama Exclusive", so I would think that any attempt to put credit elsewhere is just to avoid mentioning the site. (This is why it's a neat strategy for Obama: Drudge, for example, never links to Huffington Post.)

ben smith @ politico links to some additional rezko details (not sure how "new" they are) that obama stated in a recent interview. they don't indict him in any wrongdoing, so it didn't really change much about the situation. just perhaps that rezko donated more to his earlier campaigns than was perhaps known:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Your_Friday_Rezko.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-rezkomar15,0,2968927.story

Indicted Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko was a more significant fundraiser for presidential candidate Barack Obama's earlier political campaigns than previously known. Rezko raised as much as $250,000 for the first three offices Obama sought, the senator told the Tribune on Friday.

Obama also said for the first time that his private real estate transactions with Rezko involved repeated lapses of judgment. The mistake, Obama said, was not simply that Rezko was under grand jury investigation at the time of their 2005 and 2006 dealings. "The mistake was he had been a contributor and somebody involved in politics," he said.

In an extensive interview that he hoped would quell the lingering controversy over his relationship with Rezko, Obama said that voters concerned about his judgment should view it as "a mistake in not seeing the potential conflicts of interest."

dunno if this will get any traction. but there's likely an obama strategy to getting this out now - along with all the earmark details he released - so that he'll be able to hit clinton harder on the transparency issues, esp. the tax returns, white house papers, etc.

oh and jeremiah wright is no longer on the religious council of the campaign.

As long as he didn't pardon Rezko, he's got one up on the Clintons...

(This is why it's a neat strategy for Obama: Drudge, for example, never links to Huffington Post.)

I don't get why this is a neat strategy at all. Wouldn't you want this message disseminated to as many people as possible, not just people who read liberal blogs?

i was wondering the same thing

Because it's news that Fox can't ignore.

Apparently MSNBC/CNN and not Fox doing best ratings-wise during the 08 campaign. This might be good background when analyzing who goes after what. As for Drudge, how soon we forget OMG TURBAN PHOTO and Obama people have not.

lol @ Sean Hannity saying Obama should resign from his senate seat.

lolololol why

Because of THE TERRIBLE DISGRACE?

Of his former pastor once saying some stuff!

Greta Van Sustren has an unfortunate face.

sean hannity should resign from life

It's kinda great that whenever something goes wrong with his campaign Obama immediately just goes on TV everywhere giving his own take on it rather than just releasing a statement and hoping it'll just go away by the next news cycle. It's somewhat refreshing.

the 2nd part of his interview on AC360 was amazing.

This whole attempt by people to paint Obama as this "post-racial" figure had bothered me for a while now, because there are still issues that we have to get over as a country and as a people.. his words were very profound.

great discussion going on on CNN right now.

this kind of needed to happen.

this fits again:

It may take from now until November to repudiate every supporter or potential supporter who has said or done something regrettable but it will be time well spent.

hopefully Obama's pastor is voting for Hillary

or McCain

is there a joke somewhere in there

Any link to AC360?

Obama is conducting himself well right now but I'm worried about the blog comments all over the place from shills, freepers and others who don't realise how racist they're being, or are delighting in having a vent for their bigotry. This should make all of us ill. They think Obama is prevaricating somehow, they can't put a finger on why they can't trust him but they're glad to have the perfect excuse not to. I mean, it's all very well for us to say these critics share a communal brain cell and lack a spelling dictionary but they are all coming out of the woodwork at once. RAIIIIIID! What Obama is going through right now is proof that people whites will identify as black still have to work twice as hard for half as much, and are expected to be very grateful for that, if not to personally go around and thank whitey one by one for being so fucking magnanimous. Everyone else who isn't some shade of brown isn't expected to offer more than token thanks to the larger society for achieving things through individual hard work or the institutional assistance all Americans are entitled to.

im real worried about this, this shit has some traction
did the obama campaign really not know/think these speeches wouldn't air?

they did know, everyone who was following this early on knew that eventually this would become big, but I guess they didn't think it would cause THIS MUCH of a reaction. He already "denounced and rejected" some stuff Wright said and tried to distance himself from him way back in 07.

suzy otm, I'll try to find the AC360 vids for you.

this whole thing has me really depressed though. maybe I'm too emotionally invested in this thing lol

If this still has the same full head of steam on Monday as it did on Friday, then I'll be worried. Joe Public forgets about politics on the weekend, though.

Don't worry BW, I found a transcript. I don't think the people who had decided they're for Obama or are Dem ticket voters are going to be abandoning Obama because of this. I think there are enough of these to win in November. But there are hella bigots using this latest controversy as an excuse to express their racial anxiety like the blowhards they are -- and we all know people who are like this. Anyone who's ever been on the wrong end of bullying knows the form, where your oppressor baits you to force a situation where s/he can say you are 'too angry' and therefore haven't 'earned' their tolerance.

I'm pretty comfortable with Wright's speeches and his criticisms of America and I know damn well that Afrocentrism is not a black supremacy movement.

Also good on HuffPoPo yesterday, substance and LOLs: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/orlando-lima/im-not-racist-some-of-m_b_91548.html

McCain, at a town hall meeting in this Philadelphia suburb, was asked if he had concerns that anti-American militants in Iraq might ratchet up their activities in Iraq to try to increase casualties in September or October and tip the November election against him.

"Yes, I worry about it," McCain said. "And I know they pay attention because of the intercepts we have of their communications ... The hardest thing in warfare is to counter someone or a group of individuals who are willing to take their own lives in order to take others."

wtf

No, Ethan, it's FUD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

The speech Obama just gave at this rally in Indiana a moment ago re-addressed the Jeremiah Wright issue waaaaaaay better than any of his cable news appearances last night did. I think he may have gotten on top of this after all.

I just saw the clip from "Hannity & Colmes" -- he was as unflappable as ever.

Johnny, the gist was?

He made mention of Robert Kennedy speaking to citizens of Indianapolis while standing on the roof of a car, sharing the news of MLK's assassination, telling people this was not the time to fragment and further divide among racial lines, but to come together and lift each other up. He also said that he will not stand for any assumption on anyone's part that the views expressed by his pastor are also his own.

That's what I wanted to see. Not just a rebuke of those things, but a turnaround of the conversation.

I can't find a pic of RFK at that announcement, but I did find this, the transcript & audio of the event.

McCain, at a town hall meeting in this Philadelphia suburb, was asked if he had concerns that anti-American militants in Iraq might ratchet up their activities in Iraq to try to increase casualties in September or October and tip the November election against him.

Hasn't been one of their lines for like 4-5 years now? Not that such considerations shouldn't be made, but this weird-ass myopic narcissism, that all shit in the world occurs just to affect America & its voting patterns in certain elections.

^^^This. But the correct term is not myopia, it's PARANOID NARCISSISM.

omg omg i'm sitting in a coffee house in s. minneapolis, never been here before, and mayor rybak (obama's mn campaign chair, i believe) is sitting next to me with a table full of ppl talking convention stuff -- can't really hear what's up but shit is seeeeriouuusssss

give her some advice from this thread

tacos/obama 08

-- jhøshea, Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:26 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

r.t. rybak is a dude lol feminized liberals