This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2005

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Innocence ran EXACTLY ONE WEEK in New York, so I missed it. If it had been about the eroticism of pre-adolescent BOYS, it'd be packing them in at the 13th St Quad where all the bad gay movies do well.

Fewer Hollywood films than ever for me this year. I need to rent some obvious garbage just cuz there must be SOMETHING worse than Batman Begins.

Early cream o' crop, roughly in order:

The Joy of Life
2046
The White Diamond
Saraband
Kung Fu Hustle
L'Esquive (Games of Love and Chance)
Private

Schultze Gets the Blues
Chain
Grizzly Man
Los Muertos The Ice Harvest
Rize
Tony Takitani
Mysterious Skin

Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
Tropical Malady
Cinevardaphoto
Gabrielle
A State of Mind
Midwinter Night's Dream
Head-On

Machuca
War of the Worlds
Clean
Save the Green Planet
Junebug
The Best of Youth
The Beat That My Heart Skipped

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot Shopgirl. Put that under Good as well.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Very good :
Tropical Malady
A History Of Violence
3-Iron
Kung-Fu Hustle

Good :
Primer
Last Days
Vital
Howl's Moving Castle
Land Of The Dead
2046

Harmless :
Willy Wonka
The Brothers Grimm

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What do you still have to see, s1ocki?

so many! my piece is due next friday so next week i'm going to press screenings of brokeback mtn & capote (still not out here, that one) even though i'm not reviewing them, just for possible top 10 purposes.

i'd also like to see the constant gardener, kiss kiss bang bang, & good night & good luck before deadline!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

so far, i guess...

VERY GOOD:
the taste of tea (won't count for my list as it only festival-screened in montreal this year... but best movie i saw this year by far)
war of the worlds
squid vs. whale
la niƱa santa

GOOD:
syriana
kung fu hustle
sin city
batman begins
zorro
the devil's rejects
zathura
deuce bigelow 2
primer
hustle & flow

WORST:
elektra
star wars
casanova
be cool
the pacifier
racing stripes

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I figured out last night that I've only seen 12 new movies this year. Yikes. What is wrong with me? Favorites asterisked. The only one I really DID NOT like was 2046.

2046
The Aristocrats
Broken Flowers
*Capote
Crash
*Grizzly Man
*A History of Violence
Howl's Moving Castle
Hustle and Flow
Kings and Queen
Me and You and Everyone We Know
Where the Truth Lies

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish grizzly man had been out here for more than one fucking week! and i wish the distributor had bothered to TELL ANYONE! let alone have a press screeening!! ARGH

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone see The Night Of Truth: That is the best film I've seen this year by quite some way.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i managed to catch innocence in that seven-day window. it's great!

i can't possibly choose a best-of yet (too much i didn't see) but the filmGOING experience of the year for me by far was the NYUFF showing of a family finds entertainment (which culminated in a guerrilla musical performance by the cast with all sorts of funky props, including a MASSIVE BALLOON STRUCTURE!!!) (the movie itself is hysterically art-wacky and all the better for it)

joseph (joseph), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

loved:
the constant gardener
a history of violence
the squid & the whale
batman begins
40 year old virgin
wedding crashers
the aristocrats
harry potter & the goblet of fire (which i didn't actually like, and have decided from here on out the movies will probably be crap, but fear the wrath of something if i don't include it... because, well, it's harry potter)

kinda enjoyed:
mr. & mrs. smith (but i still think it would have been better with will ferrell in brad pitt's role)
land of the dead

wish had been better:
jarhead

disliked:
thumbsucker
that stupid cameron diaz toni colette one

wish i'd seen/still have to see:
grizzly man
howl's moving castle
oldboy
rize

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link

don't think i saw a single foreign film in the theater this year. and lately i rent them but don't watch them.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

From best to worst -

Nobody Knows
Mysterious Skin
Hana & Alice
Kung Fu Hustle
Batman Begins
A Bittersweet Life
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Downfall
Corpse Bride
Mind Game
Crying Fist
Danny The Dog
Wedding Crashers
AV
Seven Swords
Howl's Moving Castle
2046
3 Iron
Clean
War Of The Worlds
Me And You And Everyone We Know
Gunner Palace
Layer Cake
Be Cool
House Of Fury
Assault On Precinct 13
Tropical Malady
Sin City
Crash
Hell On Wheels
1735km
Grizzly Man
Initial D
Rebound

Mil (Mil), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched Nobody Knows the other night and wish I liked it more; the first Kore-eda film where I though the slow pace actually drrraaaged.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 December 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

After M&M, I bet it will be even longer until you see another Woody.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw "Me and You and Everyone We Know" last night, and it was pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot the one really shitty film I saw this year - Casshern. God, it was interminable.
Add The Sun to the list of very good films, I forgot that one.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

Chino (nordicskilla), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Were Chiwetel Ejiofor and Radha Mitchell good?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

haha, i just watched that this afternoon! i didn't think it was terrible, but it was probably a failure. a not altogether uninteresting one, though. and i actually thought radha mitchell's perf. was quite good.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

favorites:
me and you and everyone we know
capote
rize
murderball
good night and good luck

Tape Store (Tape Store), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot Cannibal Holocaust in my "best retro screenings" category. Renoir's Boudu Saved from Drowning and The Crime of M. Lange too.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw "Rent" yesterday (the movie). Never saw the stage version. I thought it was pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Casshern. Dullest film in the year by a long way. Even dull than Doom.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

More Artforum lists for your delectation.

John Waters

1. Last Days
2. Palindromes
3. A History Of Violence
4. Grizzly Man
5. Saraband
6.Mysterious Skin
7. The Aristocrats
8. Broken Flowers
9. Head On
10. 2046


Amy Taubin

1. A History Of Violence
2. 2046
3. The Holy Girl
4. The Intruder
5. Blue Movie
6. Last Days
7. No Direction Home
8. Funny Ha Ha
9. Police Beat
10 Robert Beavers and Owen Land Retrospectives

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

holy girl is defly going on my list

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It's GREAT, that one.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw it a few weeks ago and I already want to see it again.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

John Waters' raging against the middle-aging of the light continues to slowly die.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot about "Funny Ha Ha". That was "good" too.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

yeaaahhh, I wasn't so sure about it. His new one is supposed to be better.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

But yes, maybe it was "good".

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Cronenberg and Van Sant have Manchurian Candidatized critics this year... I'm glad Waters is sticking with his Ingmar fandom at least.

Caught Funny Ha Ha on IFC (?) awhile back lead actress was especially good and the film OK, but it also featured a couple indie geek-hunk males (all emotionally crippled, obv) right up my alley.

Shmoly Girl!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I predict a strong showing for Last Days on the Take 7 poll but almost nowhere else.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I should try and predict that poll like I did last year. I got 7 of the top 10 right.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm thinking #1 is between one foreign, one domestic in partickler.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, I could practically repost John Waters' list and call it my prediction and have about equal odds.

(x=pst)

Which ones? This year's harder than last year for me. Nothing sticks out as being easy VV slam dunks like Sunset and Sunshine.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I will flirt with caution by saying that I believe Last Days to be a better film than The History Of Violence.

Eat my opinion!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the best movie of 2005 that I've seen was probably the 40 Year Old Virgin.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked it.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

2046
A History of Violence

Not slam dunks, no; and it depends how Malick is received.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Here. I sent this to Alex, now you can have it too.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/006454.html

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

article due in 3 days & i'm feeling pretty clueless

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright. No use overthinking it. Here's my guesses to the Take Seven top 10 in no particular order:

A History of Violence -- probably #1, the Wong has a significant contingent of "it's no ITMFL"-ers... the only other major contender is:
Grizzly Man
The Squid and the Whale
The New World
Tropical Malady
2046
Match Point
Brokeback Mountain
Kings & Queen
Last Days

There are so many well-reviewed mainstream crowd-pleasers that I don't know which ones could break through: Kung Fu Hustle, 40 Year Old Virgin, even... Red Eye? Such is this year I almost think the Wallace and Gromit movie could sneak into the top 10, and probably will in the place I gave to Kings and Queen (on the guess that a FC cover story is enough to put it over the top).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha... I handicap because (in many cases) I can't see yet.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm struggling with whether to put kung fu hustle on my list actually

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

it probably won't make it. deuce bigalow 2 might just yet though!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

If it's not too secret, what else is fighting for slots in your list besides The Holy Girl and European Gigalo?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

... and war of the worlds and squid vs. whale...

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh God, Brokeback could very well win the Voice poll; like that joke the year Arrested Development won the Pazz & Jop because someone said they just sent in a photo.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link


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