I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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South Carolina was only a ten point differential in 2012. Compare with Missouri (nine point differential) and Georgia (eight point differential).

timellison, Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Lieberman goes for HRC:
http://jewishva.org/node/129998

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

that's a fairly typical fraction of bot followers for a celebrity account. maybe a bit on the high side, but no evidence that he's buying them.

I think he recently seemed to add 1.5m of them.

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

re: chinavision's link: it's been said before, but I love how now that he's really cratering in the polls, all these 'reasonable' folks have, just this minute, noticed shit he's been doing since the start of the campaign:

Those recent outrages have built on his campaign of anger and exclusion, during which he has mocked and offended millions of voters, including the disabled, women, Muslims, immigrants, and minorities,” the letter states. “He also has shown dangerous authoritarian tendencies, including threats to ban an entire religion from entering the country, order the military to break the law by torturing prisoners, kill the families of suspected terrorists, track law-abiding Muslim citizens in databases, and use executive orders to implement other illegal and unconstitutional measures.

oh, so now those things are deal-breakers. good to know.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

uh most of that stuff is being done now

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

or has been recently

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

if they were really brave they'd endorse the only other candidate who has a chance of winning

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure him mocking and offending the disabled, women, Muslims, immigrants and minorities was.... the entire basis of his campaign? the Muslim ban, the torture and kill stuff, all that was ages and ages ago.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

I think he recently seemed to add 1.5m of them.

― frogbs, Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:15 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the jump is weird, but more likely attributable to someone who has a team of people who understand computes/the internet, than it is to donald trump's campaign. remember this guy was in charge of his data team http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-campaign-memo-unlikely-voters/.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

obv posturing/positioning for the historical record once the odds have gotten long enough to cross the denouncement threshold. none of these fucks would be saying these things if trump was winning this race

xps

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpmWFfcXEAAGb2w.jpg

~dangerous~

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

reagan-daughter-finger-blasts-trump

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

I am the daughter of a man who was shot by someone who got his inspiration from a movie

tbf there was a lot of that going around

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

remember when iirc pareene was saying that "dangerous" donald was playing into his hands?

Mordy, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

When will someone put a stop to this dangerous woman? I have it on good authority that she goes to events, and then goes home and goes to sleep. This, in the United States of America!

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I assume he was trying to stoke the "Hillary is too sick to be President" rumors?

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

oh man if that's what he was going for, boy did he ever fail to connect the dots

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

I am the daughter of a man who was shot by someone who got his inspiration from a movie

Her dad's flair for language

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

how dare she sleep. trump takes loads of pills, loads! trump never sleeps!

akm, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

everybody knows sleep causes cancer

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

(never get tired of my favorite Young Ones joke)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

Apropos of nothing, a friend of mine (not the person I'm linking to) just shared this video on FB, of some psychotic aggro asshole threatening a cyclist. Among his many threats: "If there weren't any witnesses, I'd pull a Trump on you."

https://www.facebook.com/mark.friis1/videos/vb.1201104417/10207942299974298/?type=2&theater

― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i ususally don't watch this kind of thing, can't say i'm glad i did but jesus, what is up with people. seething anger over nothing. kudos to the cyclist for staying calm, i don't think i would

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

Again, I honestly can't tell whether that interview snippet is a real Trump quote or not. I've known people with full-blown dementia who could formulate clearer thoughts and sentences than Trump.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

the "hillary is too old, sick, and fragile" thing is fuckin hilarious and so desperate

marcos, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

xxpost my favorite line is "you don't want to fuck with a guy like me-- a surfer"

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

this fucken guy actually says "I'm your huckleberry"

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

that kind of stuff makes me so unbelievably angry

xp goole

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

"If there weren't any witnesses, I'd pull a Trump on you."

doubt i'd have the wherewithal to say this in the moment but, "you're gonna lose an election?"

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Huckabee next-levels

https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/763807032159985664

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

"I'm your fuckle huckleberry" was another highlight

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

surfer guy is gonna be on the news apparently- journalist posted about it in the comments :)

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

that video gave me a serious anxiety rush. been in so many situations that could have gone that way, but that guy is next-level scary and in-your-face. i mean he's ridiculous from the distance of a video where we can play and reply "i'm your fuckle huckleberry" (which i agree was, just, oh man, wow) but if i put myself in that cyclist's body where you don't know if the dude is actually going to start shoving or throwing punches or something, it's terrifying. i can imagine an assault victim being triggered by that. none of this has much directly to do with trump but jesus fuck what is wrong with people.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

sometimes, given my job, i find myself facing screaming and crazy and angry people where the situation might well get violent
it's consistently terrifying and horrible, yes.
what's wrong with people in NYC is that we're all jammed into a small space and dignity is hard to come by and most of us don't have enough money to live so everyone is in full on high alert and constantly feeling disrespected so we're quick to anger
i imagine that's probably applicable in most of the us?

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

good song imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFvG5mtTHI

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

dude is definitely a couple clicks shy of kilmer-as-holliday in the badass-mofo rankings

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

Cycling video guy legit terrifying.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

none of this has much directly to do with trump

as a time capsule of the moment it's really something; rick pearlstein would love to have stuff like this for previous decades

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/nataliewsj/status/763817176637714432

Donald Trump asks for help with Utah in a room of evangelicals. Doesn't even get why that's a problem.

https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/763816038890962945

"I have a tremendous problem in Utah... <pause> ... Is anybody here from Utah?" Trump to evangelicals. (Nobody says yes.)

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

tough crowd, no respect

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

i imagine that's probably applicable in most of the us?

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:19 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Slightly different, inasmuch as most of the US feels aggrieved without really being able to explain why.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

i gotta get me some of that sweet mystery of life action

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

‘Scumbag Steve’ is taking on Donald Trump. Here’s why.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/11/scumbag-steve-taking-donald-trump-here-why/qOpK3JjkFNTQ5ydJ0ZJakO/story.html

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

don't feel like you have to click that.

goole, Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

Cycling video guy legit terrifying.

That cyclist won't be getting his windows cleaned by Jack Dunn any time soon - and that's not a euphemism... or is it?

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-behind-a-mysterious-website-saying-polls-are-skewed-against-trump/

538 challenges methodology used in an "unskewed" polling website. if you listen to their election podcast, you heard a mini-rant about their procedures this week.

loved this gem,

The site’s methodology page assures readers that “it is a mathematical certainty, that as the election approaches, all of the polls will begin to match the polls here on LongRoom.”

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

^^^ this will surprise many

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

holy shit that cycling video

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link


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