lol!
― calzino, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
clapham
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
you can't expect an ordinary moderate man on the street to keep up with obscure political campaigns or news stories
― the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
man on the Clapham exploitative burger chain
― Neil S, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link
If I was looking for content for an as-yet-unwritten poor-me piece on trolling due in two days' time that's probably the sort of thing I'd tweet as well. Chances are he doesn't understand what a troll actually is.
Someone should just run on a Keeping The Labour Party Safe For Nice People ticket.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link
ed miliband, following the milifan's lead, has endorsed owen smith
― conrad, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
Miliband had already said that Corbyn needs to go and was one of the MPs who nominated Smith last month, seems weird that this is being reported as a new development.
― soref, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
I'm not going to make my mind up until tony blair reveals his preferred candidate
― conrad, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
Henry Kissinger
― the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
Lol @ the idea of Miliband having an influence on the bulk of the membership - including many of which didn't vote for him in the last election and didn't even join till he had fucked off.
― calzino, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
only thing i want to hear from miliband is the location of the headstone he carved CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION into
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
I read somewhere that the headstone has been destroyed, though I can imagine fakes doing the rounds on ebay in future.
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
Here you go http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/21/ed-stone-destroyed-after-general-election
although the confirmation is just at the level of 'anonymous staffers say', so who really knows?
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure some Labour grandee used the gravel from destroyed Edstone to surface a drive somewhere in Dartmouth Park.
― corbyn-based life form (suzy), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
I always imagine the Ed-stone, along with the racist mugs, being tucked away in some massive warehouse like at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
looking forward to the movie where in the wake of Corbyn's disastrous 2020 electoral defeat Tom Watson in a fedora sets out to track down the Ed-stone and recover the Lost Spirit of Moderate Racism
― the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
... but as he attempts to leave the place with his prize, a huge spherical bacon sandwich bursts out of the passage behind him and mows him down
― mark s, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
look forward to the scene where Frank Field melts
― the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
The Laboour right as those NEC results came in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
*prayer emoji* etc
Local party meeting is at the end of my street tomorrow night including a (confidence?) vote on candidates. Dunno if they'll let me in - I think they've been thrown by the court decision. They say to bring your membership card, and mine says I'm a member, so we'll see.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpaj-cRW8AAw0Ue.jpg
― soref, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
perhaps the tide is turning; bbc news article about recriminations following this tom watson interview refers to "moderate" labour mps :O
― conrad, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link
Bristol CLP Corbyn 267, Owen Smith 64, Spoilt 1.
― Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 07:37 (seven years ago) link
@CLPNominations 11h11 hours agoSo far, 178 constituencies have made supporting nominations. 25 for Smith and 153 for Corbyn.
Not necessarily indicative but...
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 07:49 (seven years ago) link
Corbyn's preferred candidate, Steve Rotherham, has just wrapped up the Liverpool mayoral nomination.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 09:28 (seven years ago) link
Don't know what to expect from the NE Fife party - things can be much more middle-class/liberal/right wing that the rest of Scotland. Never returned a labour MP - not as NE Fife, E Fife or Fife (so, ever).
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link
Which *could* mean that they might be even more left-wing than avg: nothing to lose..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link
It probably depends how many students turn up. But my experience of being a student at St. Andrews was that they're all right-wing assholes, so who knows.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/10/leader-expelled-leftwing-group-militant-peter-taaffe-readmission-labour-corbyn
moderate Labour twitter up in arms about this, though I think they are underestimating the extent to which Taaffe is saying this because he knows it will get Militant/the Socialist Party the most publicity they've had in 20 years rather than because he actually expects it to happen. I can see why the Socialist Party would want to rejoin Labour, it's less clear why Corbyn would want them to rejoin, or what leverage they have to pressure him.
― soref, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/10/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-contest-opponents-failures
some very pleasing fightback in the past couple of days against the Moderate Centrists - this piece in particular is like an ethering of what feels like 5000 social media conversations i've had the misfortune to read
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link
bit startled to discover that taaffe is only 74, i somehow imagined him undyingly up there with castro, like some kind of unbending ultraleft númenorean
― mark s, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
moderate Labour twitter up in arms
now that I find impossible to believe
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
few people in the world more pissy and hair-trigger than moderates
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
These extreme centrists are ruining the middle ground for all of us.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link
On Today this morning was an academic explaining why Watson has a less than elementary understanding of the true definition of Trotskyite and how the new influx of Labour members are a completely different phenomenon. He concluded with something like:"I'd be very surprised if there are more than 30 Trotskyites left in Hull these days".
― calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
we're holding on dammit
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
That many?
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
The context of him mentioning Hull was the 30000 crowd that greeted him the other week, as in probably 30 Trotskyites amongst them!
― calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
I went to the pub with half of them after the gig
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link
Except you know there are loads of radical socialists who care about the Labour party and don't give a fuck about these pathetic labels. I see nothing unreasonable in having an unlimited horizon for how the world can be transformed - the only debate that should matter is the efficacy and ethics of transformation.
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
so it's not helpful if i burst in like the marxsplainy kool-aid man to point out that the swp are not trots but neo-leninists? :)
― mark s, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
The PLP seem far more sensitive to labels like Blairite or Red Tory, which far more accurately describe their MO than Trotskyite does a lot of people that just want change and are used to being marginalised, or shouted down in reductive terms for decades - and really don't GAF.
― calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
XP well that's why I said "care about the Party" to distinguish our malcontents from the cult of SWP
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
Didn't a lot of SWP leave because some of its leaders were found to be a bit rapey, and other leaders either diminished it through bullshit 'internal discipline' or covered it up?
― corbyn-based life form (suzy), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
That is still ongoing as far as I know Suzy, I.e. Denials still in place
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
Somebody in the Graun used the term "delusional Leninist" the other day, this was actually in a quite pro-Corbyn piece. But it was pretty shit and I stopped reading tbh
― calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
NE Fife CLP supports...Smith! 19 votes to 16. Idiots. Plus, I was wearing an old Eraserhead T-shirt, and this old guy pulled it towards him (smoothing it for a better look) and asked 'that's not Trotsky, is it?'.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
Lol shd've worn a Goebbels shirt
― Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
It was in the wash.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link