Jeremy Corbyn vs Angela Eagle

Honestly, if you haven't seen any of that QT with Izzard... well, I would recommend wathcing it tbh, you'll be sticking forks in your eyes in next to no time... forget I mentioned it.

Prob not worth paying the 25 quid if I'm a unite member who's always opted out of the political levy right

wouldn't recommend watching it FFS (xp)

I heard what was probably the same babbling idiocy on the radio and that was nauseating enough without seeing him.

I've only just realised we've got another two months of this shit.

During which countless folk will praise the Tories for not actually bothering to engage democratically in appointing a new PM.

two months? the PLP shd be able to disqualify every Corbyn supporter in the country by voting time

Stephen Bush of the New Statesman is predicting 150k registered supporters signing up, which would net the party £3.75m if correct. Would be 50k more voters than last time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO_yZsUQj1U

180k in two days!

Never thought Smith had it in him to draw that kind of a surge.

lol

I hope its mostly a JC crowd. Saw in a survey that most of his supporters come from poor backgrounds.

I saw that there were some sources that could be tapped for a loan of the fee. Not sure hwo many people managed to do that but I did see somebody say they had managed.
Seems like utter maliciousness to prevent anybody from availing of the main donors and people helped out attempt website.

Really hoping taht this is people who this will actually benefit who did sign up. Not just the chattering classes.

Well..http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/20/labour-stops-crowd-funding-bid-to-help-supporters-pay-for-vote?CMP=share_btn_tw

Also lol @ grassroots "backed by several Labour-leaning celebrities, including the Harry Potter author, JK Rowling, writer Robert Harris and EastEnders star Ross Kemp."

wouldn't swap the support of Maxine Peake for any of that rabble!

Lot of landfill indie about in this country

https://twitter.com/babefeatures/status/671315434289954816

This is better

https://twitter.com/awesomewells/status/752938945604907008

"no-win smith"
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I just got an email about the leadership vote, but I'm still not sure if that is confirmation of eligibility. On the question of why I'm becoming affiliated I put something vague about credible opposition against the Tories, that might have done the job if they read it incorrectly. I was worried that not having a Facebook/Twitter account might cause suspicion.

shd have just put "I am normal".

nowt wrong with outright lying:p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-election-jeremy-corbyn-s-critics-will-wage-war-of-attrition-to-force-him-out-a7149086.html

“There will be a process of attrition. Most of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) will not serve under Jeremy. His position is untenable. The sooner he realises that, the better.” Another Labour MP said: “If we don’t win [the leadership] this year, we will do it again next year and, if necessary, the year after. At some point before the next general election, he will go. The only question is when.”

exterminate the brutes imo

There is still a lot of talk of charity and forgiveness at the moment, hopefully just a last chance warning because full on Beria mode would be perfectly justifiable at the moment.

He needs to play it back at them, actually go out and say that if they don't support whoever wins and refuse to form a functioning opposition then they will be the ones letting the country down.

People are still repeating the story of the brick through the constituency party office, just had somebody asking JC about it on the BBC News Channel. I thought news that it was on a related stairwell had spread pretty wide. So surprised this is still being spun.
Probably shouldn't be really. But god, how long is it going to repeat?

& JC said he'd apologised or rather sent commiserations or something. Since it wasn't down to him.
So it was definuitely something that was being spun at the time. THough i think that was well known.

I don't really understand the deselection process - why would it not trigger by-elections?

Is it that the deselection process just replaces who is going to be standing for a borough with another individual. & that doesn't have an effect on the schedule of local by-elections which is determined by something outside of the immediate situation.

Because they would remain a sitting MP until they either resign or a general election is called.

^^^ and remain a sitting Labour MP unless they chose otherwise

Just read this thing from The Canary about selectionof delegates for going to the Labour Party conference
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/22/newly-signed-labour-members-may-nasty-message-waiting-image-tweets/

hating democracy and free speech is a really strong look for these guys

The problem with deselection or reselection is that there's no guarantee that whoever comes in isn't going to have exactly the same problem with Corbyn. You can't blame him for not exactly wanting to guarantee job security for people who are actively trying to force him out though.

given that the majority of the PLP are expressing contempt for the party's supporters in word and deed giving those supporters a chance to express a view on this is absolutely necessary. hopefully thru as democratic a process as possible

@OwenSmith_MP says threat by Corbyn to make Labour MPs face re-selection is something you would find at Sports Direct.

How does he keep getting worse at this?

Vine - 'how do you stay relaxed in all of this?'

Corbyn - 'i eat normally'

"I eat, normally"?

I didn't see who brought up the attack on Eagle's constituency office window this morning on BBC News. Was it Smith?
Would think most people would find that underhanded but did see him on the news later talking about JC not being clearer that behaviour he was condemning was bad. So wondering if it was the same footage I only heard this morning.

The fact that it was a shared window doesn't matter, I think. Is there any reason for any of the others to have been targeted? Are vandal smashing commons there? I think it wouldn't be outlandish to assume that it was directed at her - there are assholes everywhere. Obviously you shouldn't claim it absolutely without more proof, and I think it's meaningless in terms of the contest because Corbyn has, I think, been clear about condemning such stuff. But I think there's a real chance she was the focus of the vandalism, and accusing her of lying is not a good look.

I thought the Police had it down as a botched Burglary attempt?

You mean a Watergate style operation by Momentum thugs? o_0

I thought the Police had it down as a botched Burglary attempt?

― Mark G, Friday, July 22, 2016 1:40 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Somebody referred to it this morning and JC was asked about it on BBC news Channel today. I had thought it was as you say a botched burglary attempt. So am surprised it's still being brought up in terms of something JC needed to do something about.

Not sure if it was Smith but Smith is definitely saying JC should tell people to cease and desist leaving negative comments on his twitter feed. That's something that has been repeated on various newses on the channel today

I don't think you can really blame MPs for being nervous about threats and/or perceived intimidation just over a month after one was murdered in broad daylight. But I think some of this goes beyond feeling genuinely intimidated, what they're trying to do with this ban on eyerolling or whatever is to ban responses made in anger, often by the powerless, and there are so many things to be angry about right now. Sometimes being "civil" is the preserve of the privileged and it's denying other people a voice.

There are some cunts lining up behind Corbyn but the idea that outright abuse is confined to his side is self-evidently nonsense.

Smith has also said that none of this was around before JC became leader which is part of the interview taht's been repeated on the BBC news channel all day so will probably be turning up elsewhere.

& to m is a long way beyond unbelievable.

Just like Mr U-Turn complaining about JC vacillating

corbyn's being asked about it because eagle has cancelled her surgeries on police advice and then gone on to specifically say that corbyn is partially to blame for "stirring up trouble"

Looks like it was ian Watson who is a correspondent for the BBC I think who asked JC about the Eagle office brick episode, as though nothing further had been revealed since then. But since I thought it was being looked at as a botched robbery I did find it very weird. has anybody else in the building been forced to change their normal schedule because somebody vandalised the stair window?

If you ask loudly on the internet "Is this woman lying about this abuse", there'll always be people who'll tell you yes - if the police have described it as botched robbery then they've done so too quietly for Google to notice. Which is not to say that they haven't - if you've got an official police statement then that's cool, if not it might be an idea to sit on your hands for a bit.

If only this much effort could be putting in to condemning May/the Tories.

if not it might be an idea to sit on your hands for a bit.
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Until when? A photograph of a broken window in Angela Eagle's office not the stairwell of the office block appears.
Gee I'll hold my breath then eh?