Jeremy Corbyn vs Angela Eagle

I thought they were saying that the £3paid last year was a one off payment which allowed you to vote once. & that if you wanted to vote in this forthcoming electi8on you needed to pay the £25 too.
Which is why it 's so much bullshit since people thought the £3 last year would cover them.
Also not sure how they'll twist this £25 in future, if PLP are allowed to pull this shite again they might say that this only covers this one vote too.

I've seen taht the £25 makes you a supporter, is that the same thing as being a party member or are there other steps that you need to take. Would be good if it did mean you needed to be involved in the running of local party events etc to do so, hoping that locals will allow you to get involved which one would hope would be automatic. Of course not everybody has the time to spend doing things but might mean that things changed if everybody did get involved.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-election-how-to-vote-25-justgiving-jeremy-corbyn-angela-eagle-owen-smith-a7144931.html

not lol

I got an email telling me I can vote and about the timeline etc.

I haven't got that e-mail yet, I got some Labour post today but it turned out to be a postal ballot for new NEC reps.

I won't be voting for Eddie Izzard.

former Lib Dem spokesman Eddie Izzard

I have never heard anyone talk as much risible shit as Izzard on politics, he makes Smith look good.

Still wondering what the difference is between being a full member and a registered supporter or an affiliated supporter.
Do you progress from one to the other or something or are they the same thing?
& if they are the same thing why did people have to pay again after paying last year.

Or was it a case of you needing to actively take part or what?

Izzard has never been a Lib Dem as far as I know. He is awful though.

yeah i don't know why i keep thinking he had been, Google doesn't back it up. former Blairite apologist Eddie Izzard.

Whose appearance on Question Time did so much to persuade so many undecided voters to choose to vote Leave in the recent referendum.

I actually believe that Brexit was caused by agents Chuka + Izzard, it'll all come out in the end.

Honestly, if you haven't seen any of that QT with Izzard... well, I would recommend wathcing it tbh, you'll be sticking forks in your eyes in next to no time... forget I mentioned it.

Prob not worth paying the 25 quid if I'm a unite member who's always opted out of the political levy right

wouldn't recommend watching it FFS (xp)

I heard what was probably the same babbling idiocy on the radio and that was nauseating enough without seeing him.

I've only just realised we've got another two months of this shit.

During which countless folk will praise the Tories for not actually bothering to engage democratically in appointing a new PM.

two months? the PLP shd be able to disqualify every Corbyn supporter in the country by voting time

Stephen Bush of the New Statesman is predicting 150k registered supporters signing up, which would net the party £3.75m if correct. Would be 50k more voters than last time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO_yZsUQj1U

180k in two days!

Never thought Smith had it in him to draw that kind of a surge.

lol

I hope its mostly a JC crowd. Saw in a survey that most of his supporters come from poor backgrounds.

I saw that there were some sources that could be tapped for a loan of the fee. Not sure hwo many people managed to do that but I did see somebody say they had managed.
Seems like utter maliciousness to prevent anybody from availing of the main donors and people helped out attempt website.

Really hoping taht this is people who this will actually benefit who did sign up. Not just the chattering classes.

Well..http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/20/labour-stops-crowd-funding-bid-to-help-supporters-pay-for-vote?CMP=share_btn_tw

Also lol @ grassroots "backed by several Labour-leaning celebrities, including the Harry Potter author, JK Rowling, writer Robert Harris and EastEnders star Ross Kemp."

wouldn't swap the support of Maxine Peake for any of that rabble!

Lot of landfill indie about in this country

https://twitter.com/babefeatures/status/671315434289954816

This is better

https://twitter.com/awesomewells/status/752938945604907008

"no-win smith"
8 results (0.45 seconds)

I just got an email about the leadership vote, but I'm still not sure if that is confirmation of eligibility. On the question of why I'm becoming affiliated I put something vague about credible opposition against the Tories, that might have done the job if they read it incorrectly. I was worried that not having a Facebook/Twitter account might cause suspicion.

shd have just put "I am normal".

nowt wrong with outright lying:p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-election-jeremy-corbyn-s-critics-will-wage-war-of-attrition-to-force-him-out-a7149086.html

“There will be a process of attrition. Most of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) will not serve under Jeremy. His position is untenable. The sooner he realises that, the better.” Another Labour MP said: “If we don’t win [the leadership] this year, we will do it again next year and, if necessary, the year after. At some point before the next general election, he will go. The only question is when.”

exterminate the brutes imo

There is still a lot of talk of charity and forgiveness at the moment, hopefully just a last chance warning because full on Beria mode would be perfectly justifiable at the moment.

He needs to play it back at them, actually go out and say that if they don't support whoever wins and refuse to form a functioning opposition then they will be the ones letting the country down.

People are still repeating the story of the brick through the constituency party office, just had somebody asking JC about it on the BBC News Channel. I thought news that it was on a related stairwell had spread pretty wide. So surprised this is still being spun.
Probably shouldn't be really. But god, how long is it going to repeat?

& JC said he'd apologised or rather sent commiserations or something. Since it wasn't down to him.
So it was definuitely something that was being spun at the time. THough i think that was well known.

I don't really understand the deselection process - why would it not trigger by-elections?

Is it that the deselection process just replaces who is going to be standing for a borough with another individual. & that doesn't have an effect on the schedule of local by-elections which is determined by something outside of the immediate situation.

Because they would remain a sitting MP until they either resign or a general election is called.

^^^ and remain a sitting Labour MP unless they chose otherwise

Just read this thing from The Canary about selectionof delegates for going to the Labour Party conference
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/22/newly-signed-labour-members-may-nasty-message-waiting-image-tweets/

hating democracy and free speech is a really strong look for these guys

The problem with deselection or reselection is that there's no guarantee that whoever comes in isn't going to have exactly the same problem with Corbyn. You can't blame him for not exactly wanting to guarantee job security for people who are actively trying to force him out though.

given that the majority of the PLP are expressing contempt for the party's supporters in word and deed giving those supporters a chance to express a view on this is absolutely necessary. hopefully thru as democratic a process as possible

@OwenSmith_MP says threat by Corbyn to make Labour MPs face re-selection is something you would find at Sports Direct.

How does he keep getting worse at this?

Vine - 'how do you stay relaxed in all of this?'

Corbyn - 'i eat normally'

"I eat, normally"?