Jeremy Corbyn vs Angela Eagle

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Didn't he recently notice how a similar strategy worked so well for Leadsom? Not only incompetent but also completely abhorrent.

I am going to try and pay the £25 at 5.00 pm, if it contributes towards stopping this this piece of shit it will be a bargain.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

whoever said about him looking like Shadwell is not wrong tho

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

just an everyday normal guy who made £80k as a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

"I'm normal," says Owen Smith to lady he's just sat down next to on bus.

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

"I have a wife and children. I love macroeconomics."

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

"Feel my muscles, go on."

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

Even if he didn't intend it as a dog-whistle, he's now given two interviews in two days that have required further explanation after the fact. That's quite a strike rate so far.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

"I can go on the bus on my own."

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

"i want a world without nuclear weapons altogether, but i don't think we hasten that by divesting," he adds, his eyes rolling slightly in their sockets

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

He's rolling his eyes as he's speaking himself. I thought that eye rolling was on teh list of vetoed behaviour taht's circulating various CLPs.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

"i too enjoy a schooner of wine at the end of a hard day's completion of tasks. my tentacles are like yours, made of human flesh and blood..."

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Sounds like the registering to vote has been a major pain. Large amounts of people trying to get through at the same time and overloading the thing. Kind of predictable really.

Also looks like they did succeed in allowing people to donate membership fees or alternatively get fee loans from related organisations.

Just heard Jeremy talking about why he's voting against Trident on BBC News live from the House of Commons. Though he has given his party the free vote.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

The Guardian understands that meetings are under way between the teams of Smith and Eagle, with some urging them to consider a joint ticket in which one runs as a shadow chancellor to the other as leader

Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

That worked really well last time someone tried that.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

When you register they ask your Facebook/Twitter ID and I'm not on either so I don't know how that is going to work out. Also it states you can only pay with credit card featuring your own address, all very classy and democratic.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

Shit, I joined well before January so I'm not sure if needed to become a registered member.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I thought this £25 still only made you a supporter not a full member. Not sure how you go about becoming a full member.
But it's naff anyway, wonder what the next attempt at blocking party democracy will be.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

A member who has joined post 12 Jan can vote, but only as a £25 supporter.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

I joined pre 12th Jan, but I thought I still had to become a registered supporter to vote in the leadership election. I will be phoning them tomorrow for my money back!

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

PLP = Pitiful Liberal Ponzi

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

lol 'liberal'

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

I still have always liked Eagle, which is why I find all of this disappointing. Smith can go fuck himself.

Two crickets was sassing each other (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

There are decent people making questionable decisions on every side here bar Tory Labour tbf

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

I am kicking myself for giving them that £25 despite being eligible to vote. Better not open any spam emails since I became such an easy mark.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

do registered supporters get 25£ off subsequent membership fees?

cozen, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Do we accept the narrative that Corbyn is "a decent bloke who is unelectable as a Prime Minister"?

And is there really no-one who is left-wing, decent and charismatic enough to stand a chance of winning an election?

(I assume Smith/Eagle are *charismatic* to a degree, to have got where they have got to ... but they don't make me think that May isn't going to win the next election with barely any effort).

djh, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

can't stop laughing at this

@iankatz1000
Top fact about @OwenSmith_MP, man who cd be Lab leader: as young BBC producer asked to get police comment on story, he called 999 #newsnight

soref, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

I feel like some switch has flipped and pretty much all politicians have become anachronistic overnight, absurdities suited to some alien age

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

xp
tbf he was probably repeatedly trying to press the speed dial button to daddy.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

As it stands, Corbyn can't even form a functioning opposition let alone win an election. The fact that *everyone knows that* and yet he still overwhelming favourite to beat whichever of Smith or Eagle remains in the race suggests that something else is going on here.

When he wins, Labour MPs will finally need to pull their heads out of their arses and address the bigger issue, namely the complete atrophying of trust between a majority of Labour members and their MPs. The party will continue to cling to Corbyn like a life raft until someone can convince the party that they aren't going to pull some shit like abstaining on the welfare bill again.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link

The approach - essentially insulting Corbyn supporters as cultists, entryists, fatasists, Trots, misogynists, etc rather than trying to make any kind of case for them to reconsider their support - has shown how little they have in the cupboard other than 'electability' which nobody really believes either.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link

correct

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link

I assume a lot of Corbyn's following is like me: not buying into any personality cult (lol) but implacably opposed to virtually everybody who's lined up against him in politics or media

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:29 (seven years ago) link

^^^

chap, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link

sure they make themselves look more and more like what they are, but you get the feeling they'd break the party up rather than allow it to fall into the hands of dangerous lefties anyway

― the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:35 (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gosh I was otm a lot last year

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

The idea that people have been sucked into a leftist cult by the charismatic Corbyn is quite hilarious. If the Labour Right were any good they would have no problem drumming up a 100000 "entryist" supporters of their own, if there isn't that tiny number willing to get behind them than their constant talk of electoral credibility is nonsense.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 11:18 (seven years ago) link

I'd vote for anyone that could convince me they were socialist. Other than that I have no unusual affection for Corbyn, and there are lots of failings on his part. I don't really see much of a personality cult to his supporters, but I might interact with different sections of his support than others.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

My feeling is that people support Corbyn because neo-Labour wouldn't be arsed with actually representing the left/workers and would use his resignation/defeat to tell members and the electorate that winning is about tacking to the centre.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 12:08 (seven years ago) link

I assume a lot of Corbyn's following is like me: not buying into any personality cult (lol) but implacably opposed to virtually everybody who's lined up against him in politics or media

― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:29 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p much

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

Radio 4 says Eagle's about to make a statement, likely to be a withdrawal

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

the eagle has crash-landed

frank field of the nephilim (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

never really took off tbh

frank field of the nephilim (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

failed to cash in on this year's Eddie the Eagle mania

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

Failed, to cash in on this year's Eddie the eagle mania

wins, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

thanks, better

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPQ_M3yJTA

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

This is like when the Boo Radleys split up. My hometown can shuffle off back into obscurity again now.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

What a disaster for manufacturers of all-pink Union Jacks.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link


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