plenty of corbyn is scum social media posts I trust a thorough search will be performed
― conrad, Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link
i was gonna say they realise this is unworkable, but of course it will turn out to be workable when it suits
also they should produce a glossary of unacceptable words to describe Blairites
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:48 (seven years ago) link
they did this last leadership election tho - tried to keep anybody who'd ever used words like socialism or Marx or illegal war of aggression off the ballot
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link
The NEC has also decided that the 6 month freeze also applies to unions and affiliates so the UNITE effort to sign people up for £2, for example, has been stymied.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
infuriating
does unite have recourse to stop this beyond half-heartedly threatening to take their money elsewhere entirely? Saw tweet indicating that Unison and GMB agreed with it and werent contesting it but so much unsourced horseshit coming out about all of this lately it's hard to know how mad to be at them
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link
We said if you joined you could vote for party leader; we didn't say when or which one
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
they will have to refund a lot of people, surely
― ogmor, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link
Both sides obviously don't believe the other side should exist within the same party as them so a split looks like the only long-term workable option. Otherwise this is going to repeat itself time and time again.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
corbyn backed by the unions and with a strong base of support will surely keep the name, and I would think the labour right with their mantra of electability would be aware that setting up a new party had a high chance of proving to be suicide, so I can imagine this battle going on for a long time, especially while it's close and there are still a lot of people on the fence to win over
― ogmor, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link
That broken window at Eagle's constituency office a closer lookhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=167&v=ppnKHmuVA1si.e. that wasn't her office window it's on a shared stairwell so looks mor elikely to have been an attempted burglary.But there may be less mileage in that.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 July 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
https://s32.postimg.org/syyiw0q85/Cnp1_EQj_XEAAv_Rwq.jpg
Seems an interesting angle to lead with if you're running against LGBT candidate.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
it's because he can't say "I'm working class" or "I'm Labour"
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
and he so desperately wants to appeal on those tickets
It reads as a hamfisted play for Everybloke status but if he couldn't foresee how that might be spun given the situation then he's pretty naive.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link
Didn't he recently notice how a similar strategy worked so well for Leadsom? Not only incompetent but also completely abhorrent.
I am going to try and pay the £25 at 5.00 pm, if it contributes towards stopping this this piece of shit it will be a bargain.
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
whoever said about him looking like Shadwell is not wrong tho
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link
just an everyday normal guy who made £80k as a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry
― report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
"I'm normal," says Owen Smith to lady he's just sat down next to on bus.
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
"I have a wife and children. I love macroeconomics."
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
"Feel my muscles, go on."
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
Even if he didn't intend it as a dog-whistle, he's now given two interviews in two days that have required further explanation after the fact. That's quite a strike rate so far.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
"I can go on the bus on my own."
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
"i want a world without nuclear weapons altogether, but i don't think we hasten that by divesting," he adds, his eyes rolling slightly in their sockets
― report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
He's rolling his eyes as he's speaking himself. I thought that eye rolling was on teh list of vetoed behaviour taht's circulating various CLPs.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
"i too enjoy a schooner of wine at the end of a hard day's completion of tasks. my tentacles are like yours, made of human flesh and blood..."
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like the registering to vote has been a major pain. Large amounts of people trying to get through at the same time and overloading the thing. Kind of predictable really.
Also looks like they did succeed in allowing people to donate membership fees or alternatively get fee loans from related organisations.
Just heard Jeremy talking about why he's voting against Trident on BBC News live from the House of Commons. Though he has given his party the free vote.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
The Guardian understands that meetings are under way between the teams of Smith and Eagle, with some urging them to consider a joint ticket in which one runs as a shadow chancellor to the other as leader
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
That worked really well last time someone tried that.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
When you register they ask your Facebook/Twitter ID and I'm not on either so I don't know how that is going to work out. Also it states you can only pay with credit card featuring your own address, all very classy and democratic.
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
Shit, I joined well before January so I'm not sure if needed to become a registered member.
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
I thought this £25 still only made you a supporter not a full member. Not sure how you go about becoming a full member.But it's naff anyway, wonder what the next attempt at blocking party democracy will be.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
A member who has joined post 12 Jan can vote, but only as a £25 supporter.
― a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
I joined pre 12th Jan, but I thought I still had to become a registered supporter to vote in the leadership election. I will be phoning them tomorrow for my money back!
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
http://jvmarketinggroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/XOWii-mlm-business.jpg
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
PLP = Pitiful Liberal Ponzi
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
lol 'liberal'
― report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link
I still have always liked Eagle, which is why I find all of this disappointing. Smith can go fuck himself.
― Two crickets was sassing each other (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
There are decent people making questionable decisions on every side here bar Tory Labour tbf
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
I am kicking myself for giving them that £25 despite being eligible to vote. Better not open any spam emails since I became such an easy mark.
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
do registered supporters get 25£ off subsequent membership fees?
― cozen, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
Do we accept the narrative that Corbyn is "a decent bloke who is unelectable as a Prime Minister"?
And is there really no-one who is left-wing, decent and charismatic enough to stand a chance of winning an election?
(I assume Smith/Eagle are *charismatic* to a degree, to have got where they have got to ... but they don't make me think that May isn't going to win the next election with barely any effort).
― djh, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
can't stop laughing at this
@iankatz1000Top fact about @OwenSmith_MP, man who cd be Lab leader: as young BBC producer asked to get police comment on story, he called 999 #newsnight
― soref, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
I feel like some switch has flipped and pretty much all politicians have become anachronistic overnight, absurdities suited to some alien age
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link
xptbf he was probably repeatedly trying to press the speed dial button to daddy.
― calzino, Monday, 18 July 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link
As it stands, Corbyn can't even form a functioning opposition let alone win an election. The fact that *everyone knows that* and yet he still overwhelming favourite to beat whichever of Smith or Eagle remains in the race suggests that something else is going on here.
When he wins, Labour MPs will finally need to pull their heads out of their arses and address the bigger issue, namely the complete atrophying of trust between a majority of Labour members and their MPs. The party will continue to cling to Corbyn like a life raft until someone can convince the party that they aren't going to pull some shit like abstaining on the welfare bill again.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link
The approach - essentially insulting Corbyn supporters as cultists, entryists, fatasists, Trots, misogynists, etc rather than trying to make any kind of case for them to reconsider their support - has shown how little they have in the cupboard other than 'electability' which nobody really believes either.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link
correct
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link
I assume a lot of Corbyn's following is like me: not buying into any personality cult (lol) but implacably opposed to virtually everybody who's lined up against him in politics or media
― PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:29 (seven years ago) link
^^^
― chap, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link