i had no idea what a good score was last night tbh. or how many presses you guys have made altogether. i got bored of it fairly quickly, probably only played < 5 mins
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 3 June 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
Reviving this thread so maybe we can all choose to use it to discuss free will and return to properly slagging off Richard Dawkins in the Richard Dawkins - Anti-Christ or Great Thinker thread.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
one's concept/definition of "free will" seems contingent on so many near-ineffable assumptions about the universe and stuff.. seems like it would be hard not to just be talking past each other
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link
oh that was a dumb post, sorry
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
hey folks what's y'alls favourite freiwillige selbstkontrolle record
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link
Every debate on free will always fucks off because 1) People begin to use moral arguments in an ontological debate (but without free will, how can society...) and 2) People for some reason think completely free will or complete determinism are the only two possibilities.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link
otm
― brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:54 (seven years ago) link
3) people who aren't interested in the discussion pile in to tell everybody how not interesting it is
― snappy baritone (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link
like they're somehow compelled to do so
https://twitter.com/ilikemints/status/840645034978480130
^^^the secret vector of all human compulsions
― mark s, Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:25 (seven years ago) link
Pretty sure the quote is from Kathleen McAuliffe's This Is Your Brain on Parasites.
The science on flu viri affecting animal behavior is rather weak, but there's tons on toxoplasmosis. Becoming attracted to cat piss in rodents, but in humans, higher testosterone, more risk taking and road accidents, etc.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
It would be crazy to argue that our individual wills exist godlike, floating serenely above all mere physical influence, controlling but never controlled. It is obvious that our will is predicated upon myriads of contributing factors, including the vagaries of vertebrate evolution and whether it is raining at the moment, and it can never be disentangled from them. But even if our will is heavily constrained, nevertheless if one can choose between two nearly indistinguishable actions and effectively act upon that choice, then one's will is not predetermined or predestined and the effects of that choice will propagate into the future.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 12 March 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link