2008 Primaries Thread

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I hope the ghost Gore photo gets used again, it is great.

Nicole, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/sinsyn2.gif

max, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

newsmax <3 <3 <3

jhøshea, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/gang_of_four/solid_hi.jpg

remy bean, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to see GO4 membership cards

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

newsmax would be a great handle for max

Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Gore is said to be waiting until after the primaries on Super Tuesday, Feb. 5 to enter the fray with an endorsement.

The word in political circles is that if Obama appears the winner that day, Gore will endorse him — in hopes of driving the final nail into the coffin of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

arggh, doesn't it need to be done before feb. 5 to really make a difference? if he's going to do it, it really needs be done, like, tomorrow.

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

from the Atlantic piece...

A well-connected Tennesseean told me two things today that got me thinking about this. The first is that Obama and Gore have been speaking regularly, about every two weeks or so. The second is that, despite this, and despite Tennessee’s primary on Tuesday, Obama has not visited the state since June. It may be simply that he does not plan on competing there. Or it may be that he’s been waiting for a special occasion.

pretty thin, but not nothing

gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

interesting endorsement:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axRc4lOTS9n0&refer=bondheads

gr8080, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I remember when Giuliani used the "waiting for a special occasion" strategy...

Eppy, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Alessandra Stanley should stick to reviewing the OC hudding in a corner with a bottle of white wine, waiting for the tremors to stop.

Eppy, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/020108DailyUpdateGraph2.gif

A three points margin!

NB: I think the Edwards numbers are still there because of the rolling 3-day sample used in the poll

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

elmo is that a national poll or a specific state?

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Obama's gonna do it. Hillary's perceived negatives (previous Clinton admin, war vote, unegaging speaker, polarizing figure who energizes the right) outweigh his (youth/inexperience).

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

mark, it's nationwide

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/10178/thumbs/s-HARRY-large.jpg

The Clinton campaign convened a conference call with health policy experts to denounce Obama's new mailer (.pdf), which attacks Clintons plan for "forcing" Americans to sign up for insurance, and which features a couple at a kitchen table that recalls, for some, the famous insurance-industry financed "Harry and Louise" ads against the original Clinton plan.

"I am personally outraged at the picture used in this mailing," said Len Nichols of the New America foundation, a leading supporter of mandatory insurance, who called it a "Harry and Louise evocation."

"It is as outrageous as having Nazis march through Skokie, Illinois," Nichols said. "I just find it disgusting that this kind of imagery is being used to attack the only way to get to universal coverage."

Update: At the end of the call, Clinton aide Howard Wolfson disavowed the Nazi reference, saying the campaign didn't think it was appropriate, though he acknowledged the passions the issue stirs.

LOLOLOL

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha oh man so does Godwin's Law apply to campaigns too...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link

a man! and a woman! sitting at a kitchen table! HOW DEPRAVED! HOW INSIDIOUS!

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

looool

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

shit those are the nationwide numbers... wow that poll climb is seriously awesome. he might pull this off

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

what is the first big primary after the 5th?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean, when you're debating the insidious implications of stock photography in political mailers, i guess your campaign has really started to scrape the barrel.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post -- According to this, it would be next Saturday (3 states, 200 plus delegates), then Virgina the following Tuesday (again, over 200 delegates).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoops, Maryland and Virginia, rather, plus DC.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I’m thinking most of you are unaware of the Harry and Louise commercials because this is an obvious attempt to recreate them.

For those curious: you can see a few of them on YouTube.

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

March 4th is the real biggie following Feb 5th

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I’m thinking most of you are unaware of the Harry and Louise commercials because this is an obvious attempt to recreate them.

no, I remember these commercials. but so what? OMG a campaign is using a proven successful tactic against another campaign - THE NAZIS ARE COMING

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

You're right, they should have had the married couple figuring out their finances while skydiving or something.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Or while spinning clay or a potter's wheel. Or digging through garbage. Anything but sitting at a kitchen table, those bastards.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

or while escaping from a furlough program

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

no wait - while fathering an illegitimate black child

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

on a swift boat

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I’m thinking most of you are unaware of the Harry and Louise commercials because this is an obvious attempt to recreate them.

lol

the post-2/5 calendar looks pretty Obama-friendly to me, and he's already up in the air in many of these states

gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr Goodman is actually Krugman, btw

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry and Louise are more contemporary than Jesse Jackson

gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

xp, lol

gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Reading the Corner is so satisfying this week.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

wow @ 20 points to 3 in under two weeks!

jhøshea, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

yea that's amazing

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

How will superdelegates play out if this is going to go the distance in Dem primary?

BleepBot, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

theres no way theyll be allowed to swing the election

jhøshea, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

MN is tightening up.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/mn/minnesota_democratic_primary-447.html

This poll was taken before Edwards dropped out.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

guys, I think we are forgetting that Harry : Louise :: Hitler : Eva Braun

elmo argonaut, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

the post-2/5 calendar looks pretty Obama-friendly to me

what are you saying, gabbneb?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

that it consists of states in which he might be expected to do better than hillary

gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

why would you think that?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

damn, thinking about last night's debate, and watching some footage from other ones, i think wolf blitzer is possibly the shittiest debate moderator i've ever seen

Mark Clemente, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

gabbneb i sincerely hope you're not saying what i think you're saying

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

if Obama is the nominee, don't be surprised if Bloomie gets in.

Why Obama over HRC?

Mayor Bloomberg/Senator Hagel is the dream ticket that keeps me up at night.

Bloomberg/Hagel sounds like something you need to get inoculated against.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 1 February 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

ET TU, GABBNEB? ET TU?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link


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