What are you going to do if McCain wins?

http://www.mvmagazine.com/2007/september-october/images/free_marthas_vineyard.gif

"In 1977, Martha's Vineyard tried to secede from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (it also tried to secede from the United States and become an independent nation) along with the island of Nantucket."

(we gotta start working on this again.)

Bush was only president for eight years. Didn't you all first elect John Howard in the early 50s?

― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 September 2008 00:05 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Bush would never have received a first term here, let alone four.

I agree that Howard getting four terms is a shithouse reflection on this country btw. I actually hated living here for some years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_New_England I like the idea of having a fucking pine tree on the flag.

As much as you want to be able to blame one person or one administration or one party, we all pay taxes here to support the awful things that our government does, so we're all implicated in this to some degree. I'm not on the Leave the Country if McCain is Elected team, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting to remove yourself from any association with the modern day Neros.

this is the part that grates me. it's like ppl are just satisfying the part of themselves that has a pathological need to be RIGHT about everything. the democratic process resolves itself in a way that produces the most unsavory possible outcome, yr immediate impulse/reaction is to want to distance yrself from association w/tha EVIL EMPIRE => it's about preserving your IDENTITY of being someone who cares about, like, social justice and shit. and hey, that's a perfectly legitimate life decision for anyone to make and i wouldn't want to suggest otherwise - but the way some ppl package it as being abt like, OH I AM SO TORMENTED BY THA WOES OF THA WORLD~~, that's horseshit and it makes me bristle with its fucken narcissism.

ps. australia's a shithole, how dare u fucken rubes cast aspersions on this great nation~~~

I'm voting for McCain wtf!!?

uh douchebags, mccain and republicans suck and all but WTF with this "all republicans are racists" and equating bush winning elections with the majority of americans being racist bullshit?

Supporting racism of that magnitude IS racism. There really is no excuse for it.

cankles: um, wtf?

autumn almanac u should probably do a little bit a reading before you trust the word of some dude on the internet that the reason mccain will win is because americans are racist

yr immediate impulse/reaction is to want to distance yrself from association w/tha EVIL EMPIRE

It's more immediate and admittedly unreasonable impulse to distance myself from a country whose infrastructure & economy are failing.

And the majority of whose citizens are choosing a candidate who will speed that process.

Of course the more considered reaction is "stay and fight."

this is the part that grates me. it's like ppl are just satisfying the part of themselves that has a pathological need to be RIGHT about everything. the democratic process resolves itself in a way that produces the most unsavory possible outcome, yr immediate impulse/reaction is to want to distance yrself from association w/tha EVIL EMPIRE => it's about preserving your IDENTITY of being someone who cares about, like, social justice and shit. and hey, that's a perfectly legitimate life decision for anyone to make and i wouldn't want to suggest otherwise - but the way some ppl package it as being abt like, OH I AM SO TORMENTED BY THA WOES OF THA WORLD~~, that's horseshit and it makes me bristle with its fucken narcissism.

ps. australia's a shithole, how dare u fucken rubes cast aspersions on this great nation~~~

Jeez, man.

this is the part that grates me. it's like ppl are just satisfying the part of themselves that has a pathological need to be RIGHT about everything.

The most OTM sentences I've read today.

autumn almanac u should probably do a little bit a reading before you trust the word of some dude on the internet that the reason mccain will win is because americans are racist

― Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Monday, 29 September 2008 07:41 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The vast amount of US political news that is shoved down our throats in utter disproportion to literally every other foreign country in the world makes me eminently qualified to discuss the racist motives of your current and potential Republican shitheads leaders.

a curious mix of self-loathing and ultra-defensive

yay elections :)

The vast amount of US political news that is shoved down our throats in utter disproportion to literally every other foreign country in the world makes me eminently qualified to discuss the racist motives of your current and potential Republican shitheads leaders.

are you the Manchurian candidate?

dog u were on a thread the other day ASKING SOMEONE WHEN THE ELECTION WAS so i think youre eminently qualified to stfu

At what point do we bring Murdoch into this, if at all? xpost

have you ever been to america, AA?

dinglol ate my baby

dog u were on a thread the other day ASKING SOMEONE WHEN THE ELECTION WAS so i think youre eminently qualified to stfu

― Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Monday, 29 September 2008 07:52 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Curiously the one piece of US election news that we're not getting is the date of the election.

actually idk if i really wanna go down this road, cuz most of america is at least kinda racist (including myself rofl). my point is just - i've heard a lot of horror stories from australians and from foreigners visiting australia, about the appalling level of racism down there. but i don't actually think i have any kind of real perspective on what it's really like there as far as the racialist climate. since u clearly learned about america from watching LOST, mb u could reserve judgement just a lil too~

cankles, what you've heard about is probably (a) the public support for a subhuman asylum-seeker policy and (b) treatment of indigenous people, which is mostly isolated to rural pockets. It's the middle-class passive armchair racism (against the Middle East and Asia, mainly) that kept our conservative wankpocket in power for 12 years.

btw I don't watch Lost because nothing happens.

good grief, AA

if mccain wins i will shrug my shoulders, be disappointed about it for a while, and then return to doing the same things i did every day before the election

also, in general people, plz to stop equating mccain votes with votes for racism, that shit is just stupid.

ugh @ racism in australia only happens in the rural parts
u sound like a nyer

cankles, what you've heard about is probably (a) the public support for a subhuman asylum-seeker policy and (b) treatment of indigenous people, which is mostly isolated to rural pockets. It's the middle-class passive armchair racism (against the Middle East and Asia, mainly) that kept our conservative wankpocket in power for 12 years.

― You should be an artist, in in your shower. (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:03 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

or this lol http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Violence_at_Cronulla_Beach_as_5000_people_gather

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Great thread

I didn't say that level of racism doesn't exist here. I mean, god, we only just kicked out the most racist PM we've had in a very long time, after impossibly being voted in four times. Cronulla was a freak occurrence, though; events of that scale are very rare here, and we hate what it does to our image internationally.

Aaaaaaaanyway, to clear things up, I don't assert that McCain suporters are necessarily racist, if only because we can't actually quantify his actions as a US president unless he gets to be one. The wording of 1-2 of my posts upthread could be interpreted otherwise (I just went back and looked), and I apologise for that. However, I stand by the argument that supporting a racist is a racist act.

Good post

Megadittoes, buddy

Events are rare, fair enough, but when the hell has something like that happened in the US? 1962*?
*inter-minority rioting does not count (hasids v. black dudes, hasids v. other different jewishy beardos, ricans v. muslims, etc.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Racism_in_Australia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_gang_rapes <-- dannng

I am failing to see what relevance 14 rapists in 2000 have to do with any part of this thread.

btw anyone who's prepared to sift through last year's Aus general elections thread(s) will see first-hand my disgust at this country.

tempting...

after last week I'm thinking he's gonna lose

:)

If McCain wins, I'm gonna be drunk. If Obama wins, I'm gonna be drunk. I can't lose.

and yeah, whatever Elvis Telecom said about mac and cheese...I'm down with that big time.

There needs to be some kind of party with alcohol. Yeah.

also, in general people, plz to stop equating mccain votes with votes for racism, that shit is just stupid.

I equate McCain votes with mental deficiency.

mccain is one of the least "racist" republicans I can think of. dude isn't strom thurmond or some shit.

That's one of the most conditional sentences I've ever read. While not a name-caller or the most egregious 'blamer' in his party, McCain was anti-MLK Day.

http://whitehouser.com/elections/revisiting-john-mccains-hatred-towards-gooks/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7641441.stm

Now there's a vote for a racist. Europe, you've outdone our crazy yet again.

No wait, Europeans are incapable of racism because they are the purest, cleanest good on earth. All hail our rightful European masters!

shut up

Nah

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