Best US Sitcom of the 1970s

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we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

didn't know Neil Young was in a sitcom!

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The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

I watched most of this list regularly as a kid. Rewatching now I just can't stand Happy Days or Laverne and Shirley (or Welcome Back Kotter, 1975 and not listed here.) I also watched Odd Couple and Newhart but never really connected with them, they were just something that was on.

Tie for All in the Family and MTM for me, although most recently I've been watching a number of MASH reruns, a program I didn't watch as much when it was new, and really enjoying them.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

I've seen about half of these, I think the next era of US sitcoms was better represented on UK television (subject to regional variations, i.e. the dreaded announcement, "Viewers in *insert UK region* have their own programme")

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

As far as I'm aware, The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Maude were never been shown on British television. Have seen the Bob Newhart Show, but only later ones. All in the Family and Laverne & Shirley were shown fitfully. Mary Tyler Moore I don't really remember, though I'm pretty sure it was on - I remember Rhoda pretty being popular though. I don't know what Good Times is.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

(... and I only know about Maude and The Jeffersons from references in Family Guy tbh)

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

MASH was such a blind spot for me--didn't watch it very often, didn't like it when I did. My antipathy was made worse when the TV was taken over every night in residence for MASH reruns.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah M*A*S*H was a habit by the early '80s, all the characters had turned into Alan Alda; boring.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:34 PM (30 minutes ago)

rare point of agreement

WilliamC, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

i had no idea Ghost Busters was an actual non animated show. Weird! I think my saturdays were filled with Sid and Marty Krofft things instead.

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

I saw a season of M*A*S*H on DVD a decade ago and didn't get it either.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

the dreams episode with the amputated arms scared me as a child and still gives me nightmares

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

first five seasons of MASH are gen pretty funny and occasionally brilliant. I did like Harry Morgan more than McLean Stevenson.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

Sanford and Son is unlikely to be shown on UK TV, I'd have thought, as it's based on Steptoe and Son.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

All in the Family was based on 'Til Death Do Us Part and I saw that a couple of times.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

man, apparently there have been three American remakes of Fawlty Towers

Number None, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

Sanford and Son is unlikely to be shown on UK TV, I'd have thought, as it's based on Steptoe and Son

The first season of Sanford and Son (actually a half-season) predominately used actual scripts from Steptoe and Son!

Josefa, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link

XP One of which starred Bea Arthur!

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link

And one of which made Manuel Italian because making fun of a Spanish-speaker wouldn't play over here.

nickn, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:48 (eight years ago) link

MTM all the way

ODD FUTURE WOLFGANG VAN HALEN ON BASS (some dude), Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

guessing i had a babysitter who watched 'all in the family' on a night i got sick or something because while i have never seen it, the very idea of it (or god forbid the theme song) makes me want to die of depression

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

I love Bob Newhart and I feel kind of sad whenever I watch an episode of one of his sitcoms because I know that he's probably going to die quite soon.

I've not seen that much of All in the Family but whenever I've tried to watch it I can't get past the fact that it just seems like an inferior version of Till Death Us Do Part/In Sickness and in Health which is one of my favourite sitcoms; maybe All in the Family would make more sense to me if I were American?

soref, Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

Voted MTM

Wasn't alive in the seventies

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link

i think i did an ilx poll years ago pitting steptoe and son vs. sanford and son and it didn't really work because there wasn't anybody who had actually seen both shows

i watched an episode of till death us do part on youtube once and damn, that was some dark stuff

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Was Three's Company shown in the UK? Because that was based on Man About the House

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Erp0tbX.jpg

That'd be a pretty good clickbait headline at the bottom of some spam ad.

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

^ That was the other big backlash of the mid '70s: crime shows like Police Woman and Kojak were forced to tone down their violence, which was getting pretty gritty. I guess M*A*S*H was subject to that too.

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link

"Well, first, we're going to replace all of the children with chickens..."

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link

I just realized that it's possible I've never seen a single minute of either MTM or The Bob Newhart Show. I guess they were never syndicated to the extent of some of the rest of this stuff?

Buckles On My Goulashes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

Bob Newhart Show had the best drum sound of any '70s TV theme.

And holy hell, TV music arrangers really leaned heavily on the harmon-muted trumpet + flute thing back then.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

was sanford the only one of these shows on nbc? what were the other nbc sitcoms of the early-mid 70s?

salthigh, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link

I just realized that it's possible I've never seen a single minute of either MTM or The Bob Newhart Show. I guess they were never syndicated to the extent of some of the rest of this stuff?

― Buckles On My Goulashes (Old Lunch), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:01 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i watched a fair amount of both on Nick At Nite in the '90s but i don't remember them being syndicated as much as MASH etc.

ODD FUTURE WOLFGANG VAN HALEN ON BASS (some dude), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link

Apropos of nothing, "Hi Bob" was a great drinking game when I was in college, early 80s.
1. The Bob Newhart show was in reruns on WTBS in the afternoon during most bars' happy hour.
2. Whenever anyone says "Bob," drink.
3. Whenever anyone says "Hi Bob," drain your glass.

WilliamC, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:14 (eight years ago) link


was sanford the only one of these shows on nbc? what were the other nbc sitcoms of the early-mid 70s?

CHICO AND THE MAN.

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zYL9Sra.jpg

I must've read this book 10000 times, backward and forwards, until it finally fell apart on me about ten years ago.

I wasn't really watching "Chico and the Man" when I was two, much less knowing what network it was on.

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:22 (eight years ago) link

thank you for lending a helping hand

salthigh, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:23 (eight years ago) link

I was very much alive during the 70s and even had a television during a small part of that decade. (I was very poor when I first lived away from home.) My impression of all these sitcoms at the time was [shrug] they're ok I guess, if you like that sort of thing. I was pretty disengaged from mass market entertainment.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:29 (eight years ago) link

haha now i want to watch some of these episodes

Other notable guest stars included:
Cesar Romero as Chico's absentee father
Tony Orlando as Chico's look-alike, the ex-fiance of a hostile woman he wants to date
José Feliciano, who wrote the theme song, as Chico's womanizing famous-singer cousin Pepe Fernando
Sammy Davis Jr. as himself
Herbie Faye appeared as Bernie in the 1975 episode "Louie's Retirement"
Shelley Winters (reuniting with Albertson, with whom she'd costarred in The Poseidon Adventure) as the owner of the local bakery, Shirley Schrift (her real name)
Rodolfo Hoyos, Jr., three guest-starring roles, including Hector Ramirez in "The Third Letter" (1977)
Jim Backus as Ed's friend who uses him as a beard, pretending to be playing cards with him when cheating on his wife (Audra Lindley)
Silent-film actress Carmel Myers as a former star who has fallen on hard times, brings in her car for repairs, and stays in the garage while looking for work
George Takei as Ed's supposed long-lost son from his time in Japan during World War II
Cesare Danova as Aunt Connie's Spanish aristocrat boyfriend, the Count de Catalan, in the second episode in which she appeared
Comedian Joey Bishop as an inept robber
Bernie Kopell as a plastic surgeon
Rose Marie as a CB radio enthusiast with whom a lonely Ed connects on New Year's Eve
Penny Marshall, as a waitress
Football star Rosey Grier as himself, Della's date for a charity benefit dance
Larry Hovis as a customer in the second episode of the first season
Jim Jordan (of radio's Fibber McGee and Molly) as a mechanic who used to be a big businessman, until he was victimized by his own company's retirement-age mandate

salthigh, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:30 (eight years ago) link

xxp
I think you mean "Thank you for being a friend."

nickn, Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:32 (eight years ago) link

MASH was somewhat compromised from the start -- nearly all the docs in the novel (and Hawkeye in the film i think?) are married, including Our Heroes, so they're serial adulterers; none of that for Alan Alda. And Larry Gelbart's sensibility is wisecracking NY liberal as opposed to Altman's anarchic stoned pranksterism. (Gelbart pointedly less sexist, after the first 3-4 seasons anyway.)

And since it was filmed one-camera style, half on the Fox ranch in Malibu i think, it had that goddamn laugh track.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:40 (eight years ago) link

For whatever reason NBC had very limited success with sitcoms in the decades before their famous mid '80s Thursday night lineup. In the 1960s their only hits were Hazel, I Dream of Jeannie and Get Smart. Sanford and Son and Chico and the Man were their only remotely successful ones from the 1970s until Diff'rent Strokes at the very end of the decade. NBC came close to going out of business around 1981-1982; all of their shows, new and old, were unsuccessful at that point.

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:14 (eight years ago) link

thats basically why Letterman got a late night show, and they mostly left him alone

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link

TMI: My mother went into labor with me while watching the latest Sanford & Son.

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:23 (eight years ago) link

Hope it wasn't one of the Grady episodes

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:27 (eight years ago) link

George: You know, my mother used to walk around on our apartment just in her bra and panties. She didn't look anything like you, she was really disgusting, really bad body. If you could imagine uglier and fatter version of Shirley Booth. Remember Shirley Booth from Hazel. Really embarrassing, cause you know I had only mother in the whole neighborhood who was worse looking than Hazel. Imagine the taunts I would hear.

Woman: Like what?

George: Like a "Hey your mother is uglier than Hazel. Hazel really putsyour mother to shame"

salthigh, Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah, didnt watch that much either

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:30 (eight years ago) link

Strange that I have no attachment to any of these, despite most of them being in heavy rerun circulation during my prime TV watching years. I wonder if there was something distinctly adult--for lack of a better word--about them that made them impenetrable to me; I distinctly remember lunging for the channel changer whenever an All in the Family or M*A*S*H rerun was about to come on. I don't know if Bewitched, Gilligan's Island, The Honeymooners or I Love Lucy are necessarily *better* shows than the most beloved 70s stuff, but they certainly strike me as being far more kid-friendly and accessible. I do have some mildly fond memories of watching Happy Days, which I think fits in more with the older shows than any of its contemporaries.

For what its worth, I don't recall ever having seen an episode of The Bob Newhart Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Odd Couple or Sanford and Son, and Maude I only ever saw an episode or two of rather recently.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:37 (eight years ago) link

I really loved AitF when i was ten.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:41 (eight years ago) link

Wow yall are old. I have never seen a single minute of any of these shows.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 10 March 2016 07:46 (eight years ago) link

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― F♯ A♯ (∞), 10. maaliskuuta 2016 0:41 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't know Neil Young was in a sitcom!

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― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 10. maaliskuuta 2016 0:46 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me neither, but who are the two guys with hats?

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:02 (eight years ago) link


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