Best US Sitcom of the 1970s

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Wonder if Soap holds up at all.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link

Three's Company is a different era, debuted in 1977

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

American 70s sitcoms kind of sucked, tbh.

I am challenged by this opinion

stanley krubrick (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

voted MTM but Newhart was just as good

Brad C., Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Missing so many, plus the cutoff makes no sense to me. I don't get why 1976 is OK and 1977 is somehow a totally different era. These shows all coexisted in my youth along with:

Chico and the Man
What's Happening
Different Strokes
Silver Spoons
Facts of Life
One Day at a Time
Family Ties
WKRP
Taxi
Harper Valley PTA
Beverly Hillbillies
Gilligan's Island

And they were typically arranged in pairs:

Chico/Sanford
Alice/One Day
Strokes/Spoons
Good Times/What's Happening
Happy Days/Laverne
WKRP/Taxi
Hillbillies/Gilligan

And as the afternoon wore on, the one-hour shows also arrived in pairs, e.g. Love Boat/Fantasy Island

brotato chip (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Why has Eazy posted a pic of John Stapleton?

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

We can do a separate poll for the late '70s crop. I feel if a show arguably peaked in the '80s (WKRP, Taxi, Facts of Life…) that's not the same vintage as the ones on the ballot.

One thing that changed was the institution of the "Family Viewing Hour" rule in the Fall of 1975, under which you could no longer put adult-oriented themes in the 8-9pm EST slot. It was legally repealed in 1977 yet the custom sort of tacitly continued, resulting in a bit of dumbing down of programming. I think if you take a broad look at it, you can see how the new shows of 1976-77 and after are of generally more frivolous nature than the more challenging ones of the prior era.

Josefa, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, then All in the Family. I liked WKRP but don't think it measured up to those two.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

apparently One Day at a Time is being rebooted w/ a Latino cast

I saw it maybe once or twice, ditto many other non-Lear or MTM Productions shows mentioned above. WKRP seemed utterly mediocre to me.

roughly speaking, the '71-76 shows (led by AiTF) attempted to bring new levels of 'real' comedy to the format -- as has been thoroughly written about, CBS didn't want Mary Richards to be single aka boyfriendless (AND by implication, occasionally having sex with dates) cuz they weren't sure there was an audience for such a character.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

I feel if a show arguably peaked in the '80s (WKRP, Taxi, Facts of Life…) that's not the same vintage as the ones on the ballot.

M*A*S*H ranked No. 3 show of the 1982-83 season. No. 4 of the 1980-81 season.

pplains, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link

Taxi

Cool that u can fp a poll tho!

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

yeah M*A*S*H was a habit by the early '80s, all the characters had turned into Alan Alda; boring.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

70's sitcoms ruled over 80's sitcoms, IMO. the 80's stuff got watered down, milquetoast, and not very challenging, at least until Rosanne and Married with Children. For every Cheers there are a dozen Perfect Strangers.

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

"not sitcom per se, but i'd throw in ghost busters"

what, that awful cartoon version with the gorilla? WTF.

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Perfect strangers wasn't that much better than cheers!

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

also, what about the Partridge Family? that started in 1970. it also sucked. Brady Bunch forever (which I guess started in 69 so doesn't count)

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

"Perfect strangers wasn't that much better than cheers!

― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac),"

either you are being funny or you really misunderstood me

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

i don't buy this didactic stuff

i wanna be entertained

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

The first three seasons of "The Cosby Show" are as good as any '70s sitcom that isn't All in the Family.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

need toxic cleanup funding for this thread

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

didn't know Neil Young was in a sitcom!

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The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

I watched most of this list regularly as a kid. Rewatching now I just can't stand Happy Days or Laverne and Shirley (or Welcome Back Kotter, 1975 and not listed here.) I also watched Odd Couple and Newhart but never really connected with them, they were just something that was on.

Tie for All in the Family and MTM for me, although most recently I've been watching a number of MASH reruns, a program I didn't watch as much when it was new, and really enjoying them.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

I've seen about half of these, I think the next era of US sitcoms was better represented on UK television (subject to regional variations, i.e. the dreaded announcement, "Viewers in *insert UK region* have their own programme")

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

As far as I'm aware, The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Maude were never been shown on British television. Have seen the Bob Newhart Show, but only later ones. All in the Family and Laverne & Shirley were shown fitfully. Mary Tyler Moore I don't really remember, though I'm pretty sure it was on - I remember Rhoda pretty being popular though. I don't know what Good Times is.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

(... and I only know about Maude and The Jeffersons from references in Family Guy tbh)

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

MASH was such a blind spot for me--didn't watch it very often, didn't like it when I did. My antipathy was made worse when the TV was taken over every night in residence for MASH reruns.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah M*A*S*H was a habit by the early '80s, all the characters had turned into Alan Alda; boring.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:34 PM (30 minutes ago)

rare point of agreement

WilliamC, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

i had no idea Ghost Busters was an actual non animated show. Weird! I think my saturdays were filled with Sid and Marty Krofft things instead.

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

I saw a season of M*A*S*H on DVD a decade ago and didn't get it either.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

the dreams episode with the amputated arms scared me as a child and still gives me nightmares

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

first five seasons of MASH are gen pretty funny and occasionally brilliant. I did like Harry Morgan more than McLean Stevenson.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

Sanford and Son is unlikely to be shown on UK TV, I'd have thought, as it's based on Steptoe and Son.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

All in the Family was based on 'Til Death Do Us Part and I saw that a couple of times.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

man, apparently there have been three American remakes of Fawlty Towers

Number None, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

Sanford and Son is unlikely to be shown on UK TV, I'd have thought, as it's based on Steptoe and Son

The first season of Sanford and Son (actually a half-season) predominately used actual scripts from Steptoe and Son!

Josefa, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link

XP One of which starred Bea Arthur!

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link

And one of which made Manuel Italian because making fun of a Spanish-speaker wouldn't play over here.

nickn, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:48 (eight years ago) link

MTM all the way

ODD FUTURE WOLFGANG VAN HALEN ON BASS (some dude), Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

guessing i had a babysitter who watched 'all in the family' on a night i got sick or something because while i have never seen it, the very idea of it (or god forbid the theme song) makes me want to die of depression

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

I love Bob Newhart and I feel kind of sad whenever I watch an episode of one of his sitcoms because I know that he's probably going to die quite soon.

I've not seen that much of All in the Family but whenever I've tried to watch it I can't get past the fact that it just seems like an inferior version of Till Death Us Do Part/In Sickness and in Health which is one of my favourite sitcoms; maybe All in the Family would make more sense to me if I were American?

soref, Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

Voted MTM

Wasn't alive in the seventies

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 10 March 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link

i think i did an ilx poll years ago pitting steptoe and son vs. sanford and son and it didn't really work because there wasn't anybody who had actually seen both shows

i watched an episode of till death us do part on youtube once and damn, that was some dark stuff

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Was Three's Company shown in the UK? Because that was based on Man About the House

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Erp0tbX.jpg

That'd be a pretty good clickbait headline at the bottom of some spam ad.

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

^ That was the other big backlash of the mid '70s: crime shows like Police Woman and Kojak were forced to tone down their violence, which was getting pretty gritty. I guess M*A*S*H was subject to that too.

Josefa, Thursday, 10 March 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link

"Well, first, we're going to replace all of the children with chickens..."

pplains, Thursday, 10 March 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link

I just realized that it's possible I've never seen a single minute of either MTM or The Bob Newhart Show. I guess they were never syndicated to the extent of some of the rest of this stuff?

Buckles On My Goulashes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

I really loved AitF when i was ten.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2016 04:41 (eight years ago) link

Wow yall are old. I have never seen a single minute of any of these shows.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 10 March 2016 07:46 (eight years ago) link

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/The_Ghost_Busters_%28TV_series%29_cast_photo.jpg

― F♯ A♯ (∞), 10. maaliskuuta 2016 0:41 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't know Neil Young was in a sitcom!

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― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 10. maaliskuuta 2016 0:46 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me neither, but who are the two guys with hats?

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:02 (eight years ago) link

Wow yall are old. I have never seen a single minute of any of these shows.

Not even Happy Days? I was born in 1979, so I'm too young to have seen any of these in the original run, and some of them were never shown in Finland, but even I haven't managed to avoid seeing bits of Happy Days reruns.

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:05 (eight years ago) link

And since it was filmed one-camera style, half on the Fox ranch in Malibu i think, it had that goddamn laugh track.

It's one of those 'use other facts', but when M*A*S*H was shown on BBC2 (the 'upmarket' BBC channel at the time) they removed the laughter track entirely (I guess because canned laughter was considered too vulgar for the British middle classes)

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:22 (eight years ago) link

Couldn't believe it ever had a laugh track tbh! Is M*A*S*H is the only long running US sitcom the BBC has ever shown from start of series to end of series? I can't think of any others.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:41 (eight years ago) link

The BBC didn't show a lot of US sitcoms, I suppose M*A*S*H was worthy enough for the Board of Governors.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link

How could I forget Kotter? That show was the bomb. Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs, John Travolta.

I was born in 1971 and have seen everything listed. But since everything was still in constant syndication I couldn't tell you whether I watched a given show in 1975 or in 1980. And I'm not sure how much it matters.

Bewitched/I Dream of Jeannie felt more late 60s than 70s; they went well with Gidget/Flying Nun. Lucy and Honeymooners felt 50s-ish, just as Mork and Cheers definitely felt like 80s shows. But WKRP and Taxi had a 70s vibe and should imo be considered with the 70s shows regardless of what year they were made.

Evening shows were palatable to both adults and children circa 1978 - Burnett, Muppets, PM Magazine. One misses

brotato chip (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 March 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link

I see "Soap" ran from 1977 to 1981, so misses out too.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 12:07 (eight years ago) link

Tough call between Sanford & Son and Jeffersons. Went S&S.

Jeff, Thursday, 10 March 2016 12:12 (eight years ago) link

Couldn't believe it ever had a laugh track tbh! Is M*A*S*H is the only long running US sitcom the BBC has ever shown from start of series to end of series? I can't think of any others.

― A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:41 AM (6 hours ago)

sgt bilko/phil silvers show is pretty popular in the uk, isn't it? it's oddly ignored and forgotten here.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 12 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Dunno why but I was perusing a list of all the TV shows that were around in 1981, and god what a dismal bunch. 2 or 3 of the shows listed above were still around though, plus Three's Company.

One cool thing I noticed was that Andy Kaufman's guest spot on Fridays was the same weekend Charles Rocket said "fuck" on SNL.

billstevejim, Saturday, 12 March 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

voted jeffersons

billstevejim, Saturday, 12 March 2016 23:42 (eight years ago) link

Love "The Jeffersons" for the Marla Gibbs-Helmsley repartee, unusual for being devoid of sexual tension.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 March 2016 23:48 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 13 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Really...zero for Laverne & Shirley? I loved the first few seasons but it did get sloppy and weary once they moved.

And thank you for bringing up PM Nagazine! Flood of memories....

Sparky Marcus was a fave anytime he made an appearance in a sitcom.

*tera, Sunday, 13 March 2016 07:50 (eight years ago) link

As far as I'm aware, The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Maude were never been shown on British television

Strange, someone could have given a go at showing a re-make of Steptoe and Son

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 March 2016 08:57 (eight years ago) link


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