I can't even spell blog
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
I think it's like the pee smell on Mission between 16th and 17th ... it's because the "undesirables" have been pushed closer together, not that there are more of them than before.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
So are we doing this FAP? Happy to hang out with Ned solo, but if nobody else can make it, maybe we should re-schedule?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
it's because the "undesirables" have been pushed closer together, not that there are more of them than before.
yup, they have all been herded under the 13th overpass and given tents (via a gofundme account iirc). it's insane.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
half of the tent city got demo'd over the weekend because they started a fire behind Discount Builders Supply.
― Taking dumps on a person's car is something children do (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link
Might want to consider it. If so, it'll have to be more in mid-late March at the earliest.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link
I can do it Sunday but around like 8pm. so yeah idk pick another date if necessary
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
Ok, how about the 28th?
― schwantz, Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link
works for me
in other news, Rainbow has started passing out fliers urging their customers to contact city officials about dealing with Tent City, including a list of services immediately needed, so I'm off to write some angry e-mails to people.
fuckin Ed Lee, I'm starting to hate him now
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 February 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link
I mean I never liked him, at best I was ambivalent, but the last couple years have been pretty angry-making
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
http://www.sfchronicle.com/archive/item/A-decade-of-homelessness-Thousands-in-S-F-30431.php
― schwantz, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
it's always been a problem, but this concentration into a veritable shanty town on 13th Street has been really dramatic over the past year, it's totally unusual
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
From the article, it seems like SF has been trying to do a ton ($165,000,000/year!) to try and alleviate homelessness, but as soon as someone gets a place to stay, another person shows up on the street. I don't know how much more we can do without support from the state/feds.
― schwantz, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
eh sort of, this lays some pretty square blame:
Alioto maintains that the plan is “not flawed” and that it was going great for about five years. Then the jolting economy and change in mayoral leadership meant the plan was essentially shelved, she said.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
well well
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-moves-to-clear-Division-Street-homeless-6849590.php
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link
28th is a maybe, given I'm going to have a VERY full and busy day on the 27th well into the evening and probably just want to recuperate a bit. March 13th, if Sunday afternoons are still the best choice, would be better for me.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
(As for the Division clearances and all that -- what a garbage approach.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link
basically forcibly relocating people to Pier 80
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link
The story on Pier 80 was behind a paywall. What's the issue with it?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link
I'm not sure but I would assume there's similar complaints from the homeless as there are about other shelters ie restrictions on what they can bring in, how long they can stay, who else is there etc.
I don't like cops pushing people around, at the same time this camp literally was a health hazard - fires, feces, used needles - I mean you can't have that shit, it's dangerous for everyone involved.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link
We'll shove them away but hey, Google Fiber!
http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2016/02/san-francisco-google-fiber.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty sure there are not "dozens" of colleges and universities in San Francisco
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
You know, Academy of Art University, and then Academy of Art University again and then...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
there's one on every block
― akm, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_San_Francisco
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link
lol that's 25
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
and includes a couple that aren't around anymore
but I don't think anyone thinks of San Francisco as being a "college town" because we have our very own DeVry University
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
The mayor sounds like a useless prick. Par for the course?
When are we drinking next week?
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link
p much. I haven't liked any of our mayors as long as I've lived here.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link
I feel like no matter what banner they might travel under, SF is always going to be a gold rush town
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
p much
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link
I'm ok with waiting until 3/13. Οὖτις - will you ever be able to make a Sunday afternoon?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link
not really
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link
Which is the worst annual Moscone Center shit show, btw? Am I about to be part of the silver medal winner?
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
If we want to combine this with El Tomboto's visit, why don't we aim for Tuesday, March 1? That was my initial suggestion to him, sometime in the evening after I'm off work.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link
http://apwg.org/download/document/372/npol_rsa2016_E.pdf
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link
That was my initial suggestion to him, sometime in the evening after I'm off work
lol works for me we can all watch the election returns
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
We may need to drink, you see.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link
I think that works for me, too!
― schwantz, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link
where are you doing this?
― akm, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link
Bender's
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link
Per Tomboto's post, he is busy that evening -- how does Monday the 29th sound instead?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link
I'm liable to be anywhere between the Palace and a fungus hostel on Geary near the Tenderloin, if that helps pick a spot. I'm pretty sureI banned gabbneb once, if that helps inspire anybody to come out.
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
Me and schwantz cant do mondays
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:26 PM (Yesterday)
Oracle World is probably the worst.
― sarahell, Thursday, 25 February 2016 09:45 (eight years ago) link
Wednesday?
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Thursday, 25 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
San Francisco and what not to do in it!
https://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/2016/02/04/rsa-parties-2016/
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
I hope I can get to see some people next week. Ned has my deets if anybody wants to get in touch via my unofficial channel.For my official channel, stop by our booth in the expo hall and blah blah arrgh vomit
― Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
Wednesday out for me as is Thursday due to other plans. Tomboto and I will try for a sit-down on Monday and then if other folks want to do Wednesday, go for it!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link