yeah this sounds like its about as good/consistent as the original run
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
Well, Homeland is still airing.
You saying you think Gordon ghostwrote this one due to contractual issues?
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 04:38 (eight years ago) link
a trash Gollum anti-gentrification monster
guys, golems and Gollum are different things
watched this because of reaction. really enjoyed the alternate Mulder & Scully, seeing Lauren Ambrose onscreen in general, the Mulder tripping sequence, the extra joke of the placebo, wrapping it up with a painful extended self-important dialogue between ersatz M&S... though that was ruined by then having another actual extended etc from the real M&S. Without insane racism/bigotry/clichesplosion and hideous tonal shifts, some of Carter's ideas for this could have been an interesting and fun stand-alone.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Friday, 19 February 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link
wow, this finale was really the nadir.
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
lol at Smoking Man hiding out in Spartanburg, SC (I live in Greenville)
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/fef72609be4842b395fab06ed7c384b2dfbf0073/c=251-0-2307-1546&r=x483&c=640x480/local/-/media/2016/02/23/CarolinaGroup/Greenville/635918138887021470-Screen-Shot-2016-02-23-at-8.44.16-AM.png
― Star Wars ate shiitake (latebloomer), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
But yeah this whole revival has been mostly atrocious aside from the Darin Morgan episode
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/02/23/its-time-for-chris-carter-to-pass-the-x-files-to-the-next-generation
― Star Wars ate shiitake (latebloomer), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Yeah :(
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
I give them a half point for CHEMTRAILS!!!! in the last episode, but that might be the only point
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
ALIEN DNA
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
literally everyone in America's immune system has shut down but not to fear scully is homebrewing some antidote in a d.c. hospital, there'll be plenty to go around folks
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
gah do I even want to watch these last two episodes?
― akm, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
I am really embarrased I spelled that like I did, because I do know the difference. WTF me.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
c'mon the last ep literally had the line "This is so unnecessary, Fox!", gotta give Carter moxie points for that
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link
can I just watch the Darin Morgan episode and skip the rest then?
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:43 (eight years ago) link
(And is that episode even good?)
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link
it's not terrible, but not really on the level of the great darin morgan episodes. i think people are overrating it some because of how absolutely dire every single other episode of this run was.
― Clay, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:51 (eight years ago) link
The Darin Morgan episode was great, except for the transphobic stuff about which they should have known better, and then Founder's Mutation and Home Again were passable with some great Mulder/Scully interplay. The other three episodes were complete garbage.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:51 (eight years ago) link
lol, the commonality b/w the other three episodes? written and directed by carter
― Clay, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link
"Babylon" was fucking insane.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
I agree completely
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:11 (eight years ago) link
One question re the suicide bomber ep (which yeah, that was a pile of insulting dung). What was with the 2 "homeland security" guys. Were they HS? Why did one speak to the other in Arabic and they started looking shifty, then cover their faces when their photo was being taken. Were they part of the terrorist cell? That bit was compeltely wtf confusing - hell the whole everyone fighting over him in the hospital bit was, tbh.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:25 (eight years ago) link
And I refuse to believe the placebo effect can make people trip their balls off.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link
It's the third-best Darin Morgan episode, and the trans stuff is unfortunately a little clunky but plainly ally-focused, not phobic. M&S accept her wholly on her stated identity, and Mulder tells Mann that it's entirely common and no big deal.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:27 (eight years ago) link
refuse to believe the placebo effect can make people trip their balls
Fox wants to believe!
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:28 (eight years ago) link
I assumed she did not actually give him placebo, but was lying about it to cover her own ass
― Posts found in a bottle by (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:29 (eight years ago) link
That did occur to me, yeah.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:35 (eight years ago) link
***WARNING***NERD ALERT&&&I mean one of the things I liked most about original X-Files was that it exploited the "diegetic reality"(??) of the implausible things we witness *typically in the opening sequence, so that we spend a good deal of every episode yelling "Shut up! You weren't there!" at all the people who are pooh-poohing Mulder's crazy explanation for this week's crazy phenomenon (NB this is not so much true of the mythology episodes)
... so I feel like with the drug trip itself, they were already violating this longstanding convention of having the camera give us "objective reality" and not subjective delusion (although I can think of counterexamples & I'm sure you can think of more); but to then follow up with "SIKE! that drug trip wasn't a real drug trip; Mulder is an unreliable narrator of his own mental state" just pissed me off more!!
― Posts found in a bottle by (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:42 (eight years ago) link
"longstanding convention" more like BONGstanding convention amirite folks /signs off
― Posts found in a bottle by (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link
Straigh up tho that whole scene was gratuitous and gross, but maybe I'm getting prudish in my old age who knows.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 03:15 (eight years ago) link
that scene was america 2016 through filtered through chris carter
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 03:35 (eight years ago) link
the trans stuff is unfortunately a little clunky but plainly ally-focused, not phobic.
I dunno, the reactions of trans people online were pretty uniformly negative. Also following up two episodes later with some lazy Muslim-bashing doesn't really make me feel like giving them the benefit of the doubt on the trans thing.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 03:56 (eight years ago) link
Morgan and Carter are plainly two very different writers; this show is not group-written.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:53 (eight years ago) link
also lol at "he couldn't have freaked out on a placebo!" when last night I watched the Vince Gilligan episode where a serial child-killer can implant dreams into Mulder's head a decade later because Mulder profiled him so hard that he understood his mind
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:55 (eight years ago) link
Mulder's brain has to be pretty mushy by this point after all the torture and alien abuse and profiling
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
A lot of people work on that show, in 2016 at least one of them should have realized that a scene with a crack-smoking prostitute trans woman might need a rethink. Doesn't matter who is writing the episode. Same goes for having Muslim characters that are suicide bombers. Their terrible depiction of Texas can be chalked up to the crippling jealously non-Texans have for our state, however.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:01 (eight years ago) link
depiction of Philly totally otm though
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link
Did they ever actually set an episode in Vancouver?
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link
the Marco Rubio one
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
talk about a werelizard
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
Damn, that final episode was a-grade baloney.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link
Carter has said FOX wants more episodes so I suppose there are more years of disappointment ahead
― akm, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link
William peeks his head out of the ship. "It's ok mom and dad, I'm here!"
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link
Does anyone else think that they may continue the series with the two younger agents (Lauren Ambrose and the other guy) as the leads? I can't believe Duchovney and Anderson want to restart their roles, and maybe Carter picked the other two because they look so much like them. When I saw ep 5 I thought it was going to be a joke episode because of how similar they looked.
― nickn, Thursday, 25 February 2016 08:23 (eight years ago) link
When I saw ep 5 I thought it was going to be a joke episode because of how similar they looked.
Well it was a complete joke of an episode so they were nearly there.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 25 February 2016 09:03 (eight years ago) link
I really don't get how after all this time, with so much potential and just a few eps, they messed this up so badly and so lazily. What happened? Did they have a week to write and shoot everything? So weird.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Chris Carter happened, is what happened. He needs to relinquish the reins, but the fantastic ratings and the nearly assured renewal is just a refutation.
Carter explicitly said (sometime this week, I believe) that there are no plans to pass the baton to the younger agents.
― Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:40 (eight years ago) link
WTF, not a refutation. Too damn early. I'm sure at this point that Carter is convinced that he's still got it when in fact he hasn't had it in a long time, and when he did have it, 'it' wasn't much to write home about.
― Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
The porn Mulder and Scully really need to be axed... no chemistry at all, especially next to Duchovny and Anderson.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link
Agree, but Lauren Ambrose is Lauren Ambrose.
― nickn, Thursday, 25 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link
it's not enough.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 February 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link