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xpost Angel's Envy is port finished, isn't it? Same sort of idea.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

fwiw Bulleit Rye, Dickel Rye, Templeton Rye, and possibly a few others are pretty much the same whiskey processed differently. there's a difference in taste profile but you can swap them for each other pretty easily.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

Yeah the port-finished ones are also good! although I've only had the Glenmorangie one.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

Need a scotch thread

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

whiskey thread! My go-to is Bulleit, formerly Makers Mark. When I'm feeling fancy, I'll splurge for Knob Creek. When regular Bulleit isn't avail, I'll go for Buffalo Trace, which is surprisingly similar. Maybe it's another for the list upright mammal?

Dominique, Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link

Bulliet 10 yr is decent but yeah overpriced. It's a lot like the four roses single barrel (which is also easy to find), if you're into that type of bourbon.

ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Cask strength Maker's Mark is a pretty good bourbon.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Anyone try the jefferson's "ocean aged" bourbon? I have a bottle that I've been planning to give away but if it's really good maybe I should keep it.

ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of Jefferson's, if you ever see the "presidential select" you should grab it. Truly outstanding.

ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Jefferson's is another one guilty of some truly inspired levels of bullshit.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link

I bought knob creek smoked maple variation recently.
It's kind of gross and I'm not really sure why I did that.

What are people's go-to affordable whiskeys? I usually get Buffalo Trace ($35 here) but feel kind of in a rut.

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

$35 and under is what I think of as affordable.

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

imo there are a handful of duds between $20 and $35 but the vast majority is drinkable

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Jim Beam Black, when on sale, is worth picking up imo

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah that one, the OGD BIB100 as noted, and Four Roses are my go-to bottles

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

good choices

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Weller also falls in that range and I've enjoyed it

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

I have had both the At Sea and Presidential Select versions of Jefferson's, thankfully they were gifts bc I don't think I could ever muster the will to pay $$$ for something like that. They were good, for sure! I think I posted about each of them way back itt.

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

imo there are a handful of duds between $20 and $35 but the vast majority is drinkable

― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, February 4, 2016 1:49 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

definitely, its higher up in the price ranges that you can get burned ime. bourbon obviously an easy target for new wave "artisanal craft" bullshit w/ cool labels and bottles filled with garbage warehouse whiskey

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

good affordable (less than $40) bourbons imo:

woodford reserve, perhaps the best affordable bourbon
knob
elmer t lee (is this still around? i seem to recall they are not)
makers
dickel

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

bakers and bookers are also both good over $40 bourbons (both beam brand iirc)

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

this is useful to me. in the past I've done knob creek, dickel (#8 and #12... which are good but can be a bit much eventually?), evan williams single barrel, and some others. I usually have a bottle or two of old granddad or heaven hill or some other mixing bourbon.

maybe I haven't hit many of the unrecognizable duds because I tend to cap spending at $40

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

I've also enjoyed eagle rare but can't remember how much it costs.

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

yeah I like that as well

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

$30 or so iirc

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

Eagle Rare is what I get – $22 or so iirc
xp

if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

makers is good but kind of expensive? it's the go to "i would like a good bourbon" but it doesn't really have anything distinctive. it also doesn't have any negatives! just smooth, drinkable, not too weak or burning

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

ETL shows up very occasionally, maybe like once a year

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

ah ok

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

yikes I think eagle rare is more like $40 here? dickel is also generally at least $35 and I feel like I see people talking about it being cheaper than that a lot.

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

yea there is a pretty wide variance in pricing i've noticed, even within the same town. i usually see dickel (#12 i think is the one i know) for $19-$21. knob for ~$30 or so, woodford for ~$30, been a while since i've bought whiskey though, i received bourbons as gifts for a number of years and now have maybe 12 bottles or so in my cabinet that are all around 1/3 or 1/2 full

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

iirc dickel is supposed to be in the low end of the $25 range, it used to be kind of the non-jack daniel's tennessee whiskey and was priced around the same or lower, but I think it's now seen as a better (and less watered down) product

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

whiskey party at marcos's house!

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

yeah ok, so these are just new york prices I'm experiencing then. never seen any variety of dickel for less than $35. knob creek $35-40. buffalo trace consistently $35.

chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

haha xp

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link

i also think maybe dickel has gotten more expensive over the years? when i first started drinking bourbon it was definitely on the cheaper end

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link

it has!

the nice part about living in iowa is the state liquor distribution system publishes the wholesale prices of everything they distribute, so you can get an idea of what the markup is

Dickel No. 12 wholesales for $20.25
http://iowaabd.com/alcohol/products/pricing

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Benchmark is basically Buffalo Trace that didn't make the cut from what I understand.

Dickel and Beam have both gone up about $5-6 a bottle in the past few years.

earlnash, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

almost everything has!

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

been mostly drinking Green Spot lately, that is some insanely great shit.

got a bottle of Angel's Envy Rye Whiskey, which is aged in the rum casks.

you guys familiar with this one and if so, y/n?

https://media2.caskers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/1000x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/i/nikka-coffey-grain-whisky-1.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Green spot otm

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

i went to a divey class old bar in downtown L.A. with my dad and he wanted a tullamore dew, which they didn't have, and the server said "let me give you a taste of this other irish whiskey we have, you may like it." and it's become the family go-to whiskey ever since.

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

I don't think we have green spot here? I'll be on the lookout for it

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

where you at? it's recently become more widely available.

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

I stand corrected, it's on that price list I linked upthread, so it's somewhere

looks like it's more expensive so I'll have to go to the nicer store

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Its v much in the lineage of the other notable Jamesons, rly. Just very very good and not bad value compared to a redbreast or obv midleton

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link

irish whiskey very drinkable, fun to drink imo

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

As a country we would certainly seem to agree

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

I note that green spot now seems to be the same price of redbreast locally....is there a big difference btwn them over there? Might plump for latter all things being equal.

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

green spot is really wonderful stuff

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link


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