If McCain wins, the only thing I can do is hope that he catches Bin Laden and kills all of Al Qaeda and terrorists so that war wont have to be an issue at the next presidential debate. Oh wait that's impossible.
― CaptainLorax, Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:00 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Unless they unleash that super-secret futuristic weapon I keep hearing about. Does anyone know any conspiracies about this? I heard some ex-military personnel talk about it on the radio last week. My dad thinks it's terrorist-seeking robot technology. Like, for real.
I went out to where my folks live today, in the metro Atlanta area, hours before a huge UGA/Alabama football game, and ALL the rednecks were out flying their Budweiser-machismo flags. I realized if George W. Bush was running again there is probably a good chance he would win. America IS that stupid.
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Unless they unleash that super-secret futuristic weapon I keep hearing about. Does anyone know any conspiracies about this? I heard some ex-military personnel talk about it on the radio last week.
yeah, i've heard a couple of people talking about this. some sort of super-drone. probs bullshit, but they kept the stealth bomber under wraps long enough.
― skinny jeans + tight plaid shirt (internet person), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Look, you fleeing drama queens: If you lived thru 8 years of fucking BUSH policies, what's so bad about the concept of 4 more of similar policies? I mean, hell, you should have already left the US in 2000.
― Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
At least McCain won't have the same kinda rubber-stamp congress Bush did for 6 years.
― Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, eight years, buddy.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
the stakes seem to be getting higher. and for the record my departure is entirely personal has nothing to do with US politics.xxp
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, as bad as Bush was, I was never worried that he'd start a war with another nuclear power.
― Mordy, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
If McCain wins, I'll do what I did after the last two elections: say "I told you so", completely joylessly.
― Three Word Username, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. What's not to like?
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure this reveals my own naivete more than anything else, but a friend and I were seriously researching the requirements for emigration to Canada.
The problem with that, of course, is that we'd be sharing a land boundary with Alaska.
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
uh douchebags, mccain and republicans suck and all but WTF with this "all republicans are racists" and equating bush winning elections with the majority of americans being racist bullshit?
also lol at anyone claiming they're going to move overseas if mccain wins
― metametadata (n/a), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/leave.asp
that is some serious 2004 nonsense
― metametadata (n/a), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
In my mind, one of the best things about the Obama campaign is the participation of huge numbers of citizens across the country, who have been donating money, canvassing, hosting debate parties, calling independent voters, wearing pins, protesting palin, participating in caucuses & discussions, etc. I hope that whether or not Obama wins, that level of civic participation continues. If it does, I think whoever the president is will have to be more accountable to the country, in a way that could (in an ideal world, I guess) really transform how politics works here.
And that could happen--potentially--whether he wins or not. As long as everyone doesn't move to Sweden or whatever.
― pterodactyl, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
And why go now when I didn't before? Easy. In 2000 I was 14 years old. In 2004 I had four years of school to finish, horrified as I was at the prospect of doing it in an America from which I was so obviously alienated. "Worst case scenario," I told myself, "this'll all be over in four years."
Now, with the economy on the brink and a septugenarian carpet bomber who might be replaced by an embarrassing militant fundamentalist country bumpkin, "worst case scenario" is a whole lot scarier.
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Suggest Ban
― TOMBOT, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Like, that is what I will do
― TOMBOT, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm really tempted to go through this thread and suggest ban anyone who claimed they will leave the u.s. if mccain wins
― metametadata (n/a), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd have to just hope for the best. the good thing about the US is that it's so big that generally speaking, big political changes take a long time to filter through the country. states still have a lot of rights and I live in California. it seems to me that other countries radically change their governments pretty quickly (particularly in europe, but even canada), the entire country can be prone to waves of nationalistic fervor that puts ultra right wing people in place; obviously that kind of happens here but our government, in theory, has enough branches that things just get mired down for ages. If the entire economy collapses, then I think that will have global implications, so I can't, right now, think of somewhere BETTER to live. McCain could well prove me wrong; eight years WAS a long time and they DID radically change a lot of things in the US.
― akm, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I am coming to the U.S. whoever wins. It is still a shining beacon on the hill and also my job will be there and the commute would be too long.
― caek, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
2000 I was 14 years old. In 2004 I had four years of school to finish, horrified as I was at the prospect of doing it in an America from which I was so obviously alienated.
It's called being eighteen years old.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll buy that.
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
uh douchebags, mccain and republicans suck and all but WTF with this "all republicans are racists" and equating bush winning elections with the majority of americans being racist bullshit?also lol at anyone claiming they're going to move overseas if mccain wins― metametadata (n/a), Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:45 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― cankles, Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
And I will own up to the fact that it's highly unlikely, McCain victory or no, that I'm moving to Canada.
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Shocking, right?
Give me a few days to feel hopeless, then I'm back in it.
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran = we start bombing Russia in 5 minutes, for those with short memories.
― Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I will be as drunk as a skunk on election night, hoping that the night turns into a party instead of the most depressing day of 2008.
― Z S, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks for bailing guys - glad to see you won't be here to vote for the good guys in 2012!
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I will move to the West Side
― gabbneb, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
this is fucking idiocy and you know it. i'm not moving to ohio or some other shit fest where my vote would, you know, matter in our current electoral college system, so why bother? if the country is so soundly fucked that a majority of ppl would rather see a crazy old white senile be in office than an "arab" black man, then hell, let them have it! also i don't buy into the "good guys" argument -- you have no fucking idea who is going to be running in 2012, and i'm not dumb enough to buy into the democrat = good republican = evil bullshit that's been pressed into the minds of under-30 liberals for the past 20 years.
but thanks for the guilt trip! your vote totally matters! yeah!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean sorry to be a bitch but grow up.
I wasn't 100% serious ally
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
sarcasm doesn't work over the internet
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Only 97%.
― Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Add 3 or 4 smilies next time crutis.
― Mr. Que, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I just want to make clear that I don't "buy into the democrat = good republican = evil bullshit that's been pressed into the minds of under-30 liberals for the past 20 years."
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm just too young & inexperienced to lead this country ;_;
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not someone who would've even considered moving to canada (like at all in general, no offense canada, but specifically in the context of the previous elections) but i know a lot about mccain and now you all do too--if he wins over barack obama then this country is fucked. not because of what MCCAIN will do but because of what it says about this country, it proves everyone right. i've never been much of a patriot, being a communist from new york and all that, and i've always wanted to move to the carribbean so here is my perfect chance.
xpost yeah curtis sorry i'm not being 100% serious towards you either (when i say "grow up" in a post i'm usually not being totally serious) but there's a couple other ppl on this thread with same sentiment but probably serious so i'm just going to lay it out there. fuck 'em! y'all in dc or illinois or the northeast, if you seriously think that leaving is a bad idea, go move to a swing state! do it do it do it make your vote count!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
when i say "grow up" in a post i'm usually not being totally serious
― Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i live in berkeley, I'm just gonna stay here
― akm, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
if mccain wins, they'll probably try to secede from the Union or some shit
can I get a berkeley green card
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
toronto.craigslist.org/w4m
― Eazy, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/drh/w4m/858385836.html
^^ if this doesn't get you "north of the border" I don't know what will
― Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
why would you do that to me crutis i thought we was fam
― 12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been looking for a reason to move back to italy so i'm about 30-40% certain i will if mccain wins, which he wont
― and what, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
― cankles, Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― velko, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
in the unlikely event.. though there is still time for things to change again before november..
try to stop a bunch of people from jumping out windows, try to stop a good friend & her husband from leaving the country (she is from eastern europe, doesn't have her citizenship yet - she was pretty adamant and I believe would actually do it)
i certainly do not believe all republicans are racist.
― regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link