2008 Primaries Thread

don't mean to retread old ground if it's been talked about already, but i thought hillary was far more polished for like the first 3/4 of the debate. looked far more prepared, gave better, clearer, and more precise responses, and her energy level was better. i was kind of frustrated at a lot of obama's weaker responses.

but something seemed to change after one of the breaks. like as soon as the topic changed to iraq, her whole tone seemed to worsen. she seemed pretty tired towards the end. obama pretty much nailed the whole iraq discussion, that topic really seems to favor him against hillary.

but hil pretty much dominated the health care and immigration parts, huh?

Yeah, I thought Obama was great, but when I look back on it, I really feel like Hillary was more prominent somehow.

i think you're all high, they both sounded great

But we have to pick a winner!

wtf Stevie Wonder?

F---k a Bill Bennett (Obama's "an athelete, he should know he had to do more tonight").

He's not a gym rat, he's naturally talented!

haha whoa, wtf??

when I look back on it, I really feel like Hillary was more prominent somehow.

she definitely gave longer responses, huh? at least it seemed like it.

i'm off to bed, i'll read the 100+ posts tomorrow.

And god bless her she really does get worked up about health care.

Crawford on MSNBC pointed out that Obama's taking a huge risk by campaigning (in California) on support of driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. Am I once again one of the few who thinks that's going to destroy us in the general election?

Well if McCain's the GOP nominee it's a much less effective charge no?

I think there's also a difference between actively trying to get it enacted (a la Spitzer) and just "supporting" it. I think his answer tonight was pretty good.

from NRO Corner:
>>Better Hillary Than McCain? [Jonah Goldberg]
From a reader:

I just watched Ann Coutler on Fox say she'd vote for Hillary over
McCain. I was stunned, as was Newt.

<< what ?

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/95/58/23305895.jpg

Ann Coulter is from the Rockefeller Republican wing of the party, which finds Hillary a lot more socially and attitudinally sympatico than a manner-less military brat with zero business background

Yeah, but still. . .

Ann Coulter voting for HRC?

their man Mitt just isn't cutting it, tho, so they've realized McCain's their best hope

oh like you can take anything Ann Coulter says seriously

Ann Coulter saying something shocking?

xxp

I think McCain : Republicans as Lieberman : Democrats, hence.. I mean, there's no hatred like hatred of an apostate, right?

i mean plz it would end her career

"welcome back to hannity & colmes, we have out dear friend and noted hilary supporter ann coulter here with us"

Anne Coulter is just a performance artist anyway.

Awww.. Anderson Cooper is so cute when he tries to look serious

No, that's the thing.. that's just her trying to make the ultimate slam on McCain for her followers - she's like "McCain, I would vote for Satan before I'd vote for you."

I kind of hate CNN's smug panel, but I'm afraid to turn to FOX.

way less smug over there

theyre still doing natalee holloway dude

Hey, Josh Marshall on MSNBC!

Is Satan running?

He just withdrew after fading in Florida.

Ann Coulter's supposed to make everybody go all "An alligator with sunglasses? Now I've seen everything!"

BTW, commentators on CNN and MSNBC are all over HRC for her Iraq answers. It's a big problem for her, and will be a huge problem in a GE.

wtf Stevie Wonder?

The man thought it was time for a standing ovation. The man was mistaken.

is california a winner-take-all primary?

I'll take MSNBC's blogger panel every day of the week over CNN's smug, old-media panelists.

LOL CNN California maps..

two states! We want two states!

Again.. I'm still (not being snide, I really am) not clear on how this is a problem in the general election. GOP wants to stay in Iraq. Democrats want to get out. What can be more clear? Plus, the economy is the big issue anyway.

I think the criteria should be whether McCain is more likely to make a racist gaffe or a sexist gaffe.

Yes.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html

While campaigning for president, Limekiller emphasizes his campaign committee's diversity by referring to them as "a black, a woman, two dips, and a cripple." To everyone's dismay, the "radical right" calls to offer their moral support.

[I can't find the strip]

re: the hill article --> file away for general election

Won't matter. McCain will say, "Yeah, I returned a call, but I never seriously considered it, and only would if they agreed to make their party more conservative to suit me." No points.

lol santorum is on oreilly talking shit on mccain

Yeah, but he just said he'd vote for McCain.

since everybody agrees democrats are a lot more popular than republicans right now they should cool it with the 'hey mccain is almost a democrat!' talk

Wow I feel like we're in different universes here :).. I'm not saying tell everybody McCain considered being a Democrat, I'm just saying pass out flyers in rightwing evangelical churches about it.