London realness

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Interesting conversation at the weekend with guy who says the way, almost without exception, to solve poverty black spots is to run another bus line from there to somewhere good. Transport has such a huge effect and is often overlooked area of social policy.

All that said, Stratford is rammed with links now so uh

i guess peckham or hackney or clapton actually have a lot of nice houses, dunno if this is true for stratford, right?

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 27 November 2015 10:18 (eight years ago) link

That's definitely a key factor, it's the main reason Brockley went through the roof after the Overground opened. It had been a bit rough round the edges throughout most of my childhood but a lot of the houses were fantastic.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 November 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link

Stratford had/has a few but it's changed dramatically in 10 years (when I lived there) for obvious reasons - several more high-rises make it feel increasingly like a mini-city. It always felt further out than it really is but everything above and below it would be cheaper and just as close to things.

nashwan, Friday, 27 November 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

BFFs grandmother owned freeholds for a lot of places in Hackney, Dalston, Peckham, Camberwell and possibly Brockley - all built up around the same time and intended as middle-class areas, but by the time they were hers, those areas were declining because people were moving further out of London.

voodoo rage (suzy), Friday, 27 November 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link

I think that standing on Camberwell Green and turning around would probably give you the starkest picture of gentrification anywhere in the capital, face south and it's full on organic bakery territory, look up towards Walworth Road and it's much the same as it's been for 20 years, except with a load more payday loan places. The density of WW2 bombing was a lot higher on the north side and that's still having an effect on the city today.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 November 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link

Camberwell Green has also got the Future Cities Catapult (technology centre) right next to the church, helping to 'transform cities on a global scale'.

As a place, Camberwell Green certainly feels like the centre of the global city zeitgeist.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 27 November 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link

Hang on - I'm posting crap, as ever - it's in Clerkenwell Green.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 27 November 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link

Camberwick Green iirc

Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 27 November 2015 11:25 (eight years ago) link

wat if trumptonshire modarn day? fire brigade get closed down by boris and lord belborough opan cerial cafe

Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 27 November 2015 11:29 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

It has a large green space which is the centre of a gyratory. Very close to the combined railway station and Tramlink terminus bearing its name is the old sewage farm. The remains of this industrial site can still be seen. The sewage works is thought to be contaminated with heavy metals and is therefore unfit for building houses. The sewage farm has been converted into a country park (South Norwood Country Park), but many of the locals still know it as the sewage farm. The park falls within the boundaries of the London Borough of Croydon.

The former industrial estate on the south side of the railway track has closed down: it used to house the Muirhead and Twinlock factories, and can be seen from the air here. The companies vacated the sites and it remained derelict until the mid 1990s when Tesco built a new superstore. The former Bolloms paint factory site, on the opposite side of the road has been redeveloped into an industrial estate.

Elmers End station is a terminus for Tramlink services to Croydon as well as being on National Rail between London, Charing Cross and Hayes, Bromley.

The main Beckenham crematorium is situated between South Norwood Country Park and Birkbeck. Also known as Elmers End Cemetery, it contains the final resting places of such notable people as W.G. Grace, Frank Bourne, Thomas Crapper, Jerzy Wołkowicki, William Stanley and George Evans (VC) who won a Victoria Cross in 1916.[1]

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 07:56 (eight years ago) link

^^^ Elmers End

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 07:57 (eight years ago) link

also my grandma, RIP. Didn't know WG was there as well.

While the park is within the borough of Croydon, Da End itself is part of Bromley I think.

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 11:56 (eight years ago) link

Real as opposed to what - virtual?
Or authentic and if so to what? Doesn't that imply an imposed standard which itself may be a little manufactured/fictional?
& if you can't put your hand through it is it therefore real?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:37 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

Just had my watch ripped off my wrist this evening in Notting Hill, in what may be London's most gentrified street Is this UK's most gentrified street?

Reported it to the police station feeling a little like Mark from PeepShow.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Sunday, 21 August 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/11/world/europe/uk-london-brexit.html realness talk

stet, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:43 (seven years ago) link

xpost to self:

Bacame a crime stat...

Robbery:
Includes offences where a person uses force or threat of force to steal

Current status:
Investigation complete; no suspect identified

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...
seven months pass...

People I’d like to let loose without security in the middle of a London endz battle, because it would ~unite the mandem~ and we’d be well rid: il Douché.

suzy, Saturday, 5 May 2018 08:18 (six years ago) link

has someone told him that The UK Knife Lobby and in general Knife Politics are not a strong voice over here!

calzino, Saturday, 5 May 2018 08:23 (six years ago) link

Guns don't kill people, knives do.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 May 2018 09:44 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

you what mate

https://www.msglondonconsultation.com/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

That is batshit even without considering the stadium round the corner and the O2 not far away.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link


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