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yeah toraneko OTM and by that i mean "off the money"

djdee (djdee2005), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope Toraneko never moves next door to me. I work shifts and sleep disruption is the number one hassle of doing so, so I really feel for you Norman.

I know it makes you blood boil, but step back, count to ten, try not to get too stressed (easier said than done, I know) and avoid any unnecessary confrontation. The advice Dr C has give is OTM, whatever happens now, play it by the book, let the authorities deal with it, it's their duty and responsibility to investigate it.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Losing sleep is such a fundamentally depressing thing - being awake when you don't want to be can be extraordinarily upsetting. Some sounds are also much more difficult than others to ignore - I spent one night when I had to share a room absolutely awake because I could hear him and his girlfriend whispering super-quietly. But the slightest whisper was enough.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
It's my turn now.

The Neighbours From Hell have escalated from having a loud party out in the garden every few months to doing it every weekend.

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.

You'd think they'd be too hungover to make much of a noise on Sunday night, wouldn't you? NO! They were out again last night until well after midnight, shouting and bellowing and making a racket until well after midnight.

I've left notes (we asked them to turn their music down the first time they did this, last year, and were greeted with verbal abuse and threats of violence for out trouble). I've called the Noise Nuisance hotline for the Council. My housemate is trying to get hold of their landlord.

I'm reaching the end of my tether. I moved out of Central London to the suburbs to GET AWAY from this kind of thing. I can't believe that any human being can be so inconsiderate and show so little respect for their neighbours. It wouldn't be so bad if they were in their own house, but they go out in the garden so the WHOLE NEIGHBOURHOOD has to be exposed to their noise. Sometimes they even have the radio on in their kitchen, turned up so loud that they can listen to it in their garden - never mind that the window for my room is CLOSER TO THAT RADIO than they are.

I don't know what else to do.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had about 10 hours of sleep the whole weekend long thanks to them. I'm emotionally on edge as it is, due to everything else. This has just really sent me over the edge.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/hoc-awards2003.php They sound like jerks. This link may be useful.

Languid Top, Monday, 11 July 2005 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

USE GUNS

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link

My housemate wanted to get out his stereo very early the next morning and stick it on the lawn, aimed at their house, but we thought better of it (not least because we don't want to piss off everyone else on the street).

Seeing as how I'm a musician and all, I should be the worst noise pest in the world, but I'm so TERRIFIED of being loud and disturbing people that I won't even play my stereo at all after 11pm.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm mainly frustrated with the Council for not doing anything. What is the point of having a Noise Nuisance hotline, if you don't bother following up the calls, or sending anyone out?

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Have you tried going to the environmental health people, or are they one and the same in this case?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Same thing. (I assume, actually I should check on Lambeth Council's website. I called the council directly first, and was given the noise nuisance line.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

This is who I contacted:

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/Pollution/NoiseControl.htm

They never bothered getting back to us. If it happens again, I'm not waiting until 1am to call, I'm calling the minute that they start up.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

People can be such inconsiderate jerks, hope it gets sorted for you Kate.

Norman, what happened with your neighbours? Are they still being a nuisance or is that passed now?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link

The people to one side recently moved out. Not long after I last posted on this thread, they had a party/barbecue on a Saturday when I was at work, w/music so lous that you could hear it a mile away at least. Just about everybody who lives nearby called the police, since then they'd been quiet. I felt happy when I saw the "to let" sign on the house, as you can imagine. Jill went down to see the letting agent, ands told them the whole story, and told them that we'd complain vociferously to the council and the police of the new tenants were the same. The house is currently empty.

I saw shithead's mother at the bus stop a couple of days after the argument. She was apologetic, and said it wouldn't happen again, and so far it hasn't. Last wintertime, the guy who has the allotment next to ours had a run in with shithead. His car got broken into, and there were a row of footprints leading back from the car to shithead's mother's house. Allotment man went to see shithead, shithead gave him attitude, so allotment man beat him down.

Jill spoke with shithead's mother a month or so ago, and she can't afford to run the place, because of shithead. She'll probably sell the place in a year or so. It's very sad, actually.

If he was my son, he'd have come home to find his bags packed and the locks changed years ago.

Another bunch of skeeves who live just up from us are in the process of moving out, so the place is perhaps looking up a bit at the moment.

What I have learned is this:

People who pull shit like this are inconsiderate fucktards w/massive entitlement issues, and reasoning with them is a waste of time. If you do not complain, they will escalate, like Kate's party a month turning into weekend of hell every week. If I am confronted with such issues in future, I will call the police out straightaway, write down incident numbers every time, contact the environmental health dept immediately, contact their landlords immediately if applicable, contact other local residents and see if they will do the same.

Kate, it is pointless to call the enviro health dept at midnight or 1am, you need to call during office hours, and speak to someone, describing your problems. Call the cops out on the fuckers EVERY TIME, and ask for/write down the incident/log number every time as well. Make a nuisance of yourself - hassle environmental health and their landlord/letting agents.

I feel for you about this, obv, having been in this situation. As a result of my trouble with fucking selfish morons, I have had to have anxiety management therapy. What pisses me off the most is that when I went to see the doctor, he didn't give a shit until I told him I had murderous feelings for shithead. What this tells me = I am officially worth less than the well-being of a selfish waster.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I think all the "social ills" of the UK are 100% funny to me. I mean it must be balls to experience these kind of wankers, but the thought of having a noise abatement department in the USA is fucking silly. SexyDancer told you to move to the suburbs (Pashima) and you mentioned that it was not urban. This blows my mind! (Also, isn't the UK crazy for nuisance law now where people get really fucked up court orders imposed on them for "social crimes"? I'm talking out of my ass a little.) Between this, anti-immigrant hysteria and happyslapping, I am finally convinced that the UK is populated with a race of troglodyte mooks, which I formerly believed about my country, having attended a catholic grade school.

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway...

Thanks for the tips, Pash. Perhaps I'll pass the details on to my housemate since he is the houseowner and see if he can get anything out of them.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

(I just woke up and only slept 3 hours, apologies.)

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, don't apologise! I don't see this as a "social ill", anyway, unless it's as a result of Thatcher's dictum "there is no such thing as society", perhaps. It's just some selfish shitheads who think they can do what the fuck they want, and if anyone complains when it fucks them, them up in some way, then it's the complainer who's at fault in their view.

I have never seen of experienced "happyslapping" or anti immigrant hysteria round here yet.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

You mean ASBOs, Jon? They're great. We should have an ILX competition for "most unique ASBO".

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

In Upstate NY, my nearest neighbour was over a mile away. I never had a problem with noise. In London, my nearest neighbour is under 10 feet away. This takes on a different dimension in how much their inconsideration and lack of respect impinges upon my life and its quality.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon, where I live is pretty rural, but I live in a terraced house, w/2 adjoining properties, both of which, until recenlty were occupied by shitheads.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.


Oh noes my weekend is ruined!

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

sunday morning 7am, we left the shoreditch houseparty

sunday morning 8am, bloke with machete turns up, informing he would like the noise turned down...NOW

the approach worked. im not sure they'll be having another one for some time.

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I once asked, very politely, for some neighbours to turn the noise down.

While holding a hammer.

There is a pick axe in our back garden.

However, when I've not had a lot of sleep, I don't trust myself not to use it. (e.g. right f*cking now, for instance.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a noisy upstairs neighbor. I always fantasized about writing a note that said "Shut the fuck up" and "attaching" it to his door with several axe blows.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

You should've wrote it in blood, too.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"S4T4N S3Z SHUT TEH FUCK UP LOL" w/a pentagram. In blood.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:47 AM. (kate) (later) (link

Lighten the fuck up, you old self-important hag.

Anyway, the best method to deal with this is to cut their fucking power (if you can).

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I think inviting a few friends over for some weirdness and chanting/murmuring, and have the neighbors wake up to find some bloddy meat on the door with some ashen symbols might freak them out enough to make them move.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

All of this stuff is wonderful fantasy material, however, if any of it was actually done, the result would be jail for the person who is actually the victim of the assault.

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit, you walking abortion?

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I think inviting a few friends over for some weirdness and chanting/murmuring, and have the neighbors wake up to find some bloddy meat on the door with some ashen symbols might freak them out enough to make them move.

Hahaha you should definitely do this. And take pictures.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(The funny thing is I don't even know why you hold me in such contempt? You need to lighten the fuck up.) xpost to kate

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

(i.e. the noise assault. I have had 10 hours of sleep in the past 3 days, and I'm at an emotional complete loose end and neither thinking nor typing straight.)

x-post

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

my nutnut great uncle attached a note to his neigbors' door with a giant carving knife. if nothing else, this kind of thing shows that you mean business.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I sympathise with Kate, but then I was in no real mood to hear loud, CRAP music (because it's always crap when it's coming from your neighbours, see also booming car stereos - I might not mind if it was stuff I actually liked but no, never) last weekend, considering the mood many of us are in.

I guess letting your neighbours know you're planning on a party is no good as the neighbours will probably object in advance anyway - still it would be courteous to give warning before inflicting your rubbish music on others, in many cases. People are selfish eh?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Honestly, if it were a party every few months or so - even maybe once a month during the summer - I would be fine with being given advance warning. (the neighbours on the other side have done exactly that.)

These people do it EVERY FREAKING WEEKEND at this point.

I don't think it even crosses their mind that they might be doing something which others might object to - as evidenced by the first time it happened last year, when not just myself, but two other neighbours, separately, asked them to turn the noise down, and were ignored at best, and threatened at worst.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

the problem is that people who make repeated "anti-social" violations after they've been politely requested to stop by their neighbours are not generally the type to give a shit about the feelings of others or respond in a courteous manner to complaints made.

that's where the machete comes in.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you are TOO OLD and HATE FUN. Parties every weekend! Oh no!!! Next thing you know, they'll be staying up to watch the eleven o'clock movie..... ON A SCHOOLNIGHT, PEOPLE!!!

xpost to kate

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Deep breath, count to ten, walk away, if you lose your temper, the assholes win.

Deep breath, count to ten.

Deep breath.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/images/2003winners.jpg

Which one are you?

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

There's only one lady, silly me!

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

jon, fuck off.

Ed (dali), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The wagon train of self-rightous Britishes circles up....

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

Yes, but why should we have to change for you? I think it is a "community standard" that people should be given more leeway for noise on a weekend.

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Only if their music is good.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Which it never is.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

There is a reason that people move to the suburbs. Cause we are old and we hate fun and we want quiet at night. When the community is a residential neighbourhood, of families and working people, it is not unreasonable to expect some respect and consideration.

Like it's not unreasonable to expect that a thread requesting genuine helpful advice will continue on a helpful tone and not degenerate into trolling and spamming.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link


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