what if ghost christian is actually jack after he's been stuck on the island 30 years
― abanana, Saturday, 4 April 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
that is an idea one could have
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Saturday, 4 April 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
But who is his father???????
― President Keyes, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link
charlie?
― tehresa, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link
pennie's boat is his father
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
the horse is his father
― Local Garda, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link
charlie horse
― tehresa, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link
some mindblowing shit here yall
"horse" = heroin = charlie
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link
= jack's father obv
horse or.......horace???
― Local Garda, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link
tho also horse = heroin = "heroine" = kate? so maybe kate is jack's father
― congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link
YES
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link
If Charlie's father is the horse, where did the polar bears come from?
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link
uh...the north pole?! DOI
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link
polar bears normally come from ice laden areas.
― Local Garda, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post lol
Did you mean: "where did the polar bears come from"
No results found for "where did them polar bears come from".
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
hahhahaha
― s1ocki, Sunday, 5 April 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link
the polar bear and the horse are brothers. their mother is annie.
― Local Garda, Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link
how's annie?
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link
She's doing well, thanks.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
write it in u dairy
― WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link
dudes, the writers are totally going to steal those theories from this thread
― cutty, Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link
oh har har har
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 5 April 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It must be terrible for these thespians to have to lower themselves to perform such material in order to pay the bills.
I don't think that's the attitude any of the actors have! That's kind of a weird leap. Are they all supposed to be nerd fanboys themselves? Of the big cast members, I think only Hurley is a total geek for all the plot twists.
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Sunday, 5 April 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, they're just not as nerdy as the audience of the show - nothing inherently wrong with that. I'd bet that's the case more often than it isn't when it comes to sci-fi/fantasy actors. Actors saying they don't watch their own show (at all, let alone religiously) is pretty common across the aboard, though you do hear about them catching it on Tivo or DVD occasionally.
One of the great things about Lost is that the actors seem to have almost no power. Also the fandom seems more focused on the show runners and writers than the actors...
Definitely agreed on this one, though this has probably become true of virtually every heavy continuity/plot-driven TV show of the last few years, building up cults around the showrunner/creator as much as the actors (i.e. BSG, The Wire, Deadwood, everything Joss Whedon, even How I Met Your Mother). It's a major shift in general for TV, not considering procedurals.
― Nhex, Sunday, 5 April 2009 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i don't blame the actors for not watching the show or not following it properly - i imagine the way they shoot (with all the timelines and flashbacks, re-shooting scenes from different POVs etc) means they can't really read the scripts the way we see them on-screen and it's also pretty normal for actors to not watch themselves beyond the dailies.
i prob know way too much about this but matthew fox is surprisingly the biggest geek of them all, followed by jeremy davies who apparently loves quantum physics almost as much as his character does. naveen andrews doesn't watch the show at all and evangeline lilly hates the sci-fi/time-travel stuff. so ya know.. different levels of nerdery among the actors, as there prob are among lost fans in general.
― Roz, Sunday, 5 April 2009 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Surely the reason Ben won't remember any of this is because he's been shot in the chest and is barely conscious?
Next episode is the Ben flashback right?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 5 April 2009 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i think they were trying to explain why Ben doesn't remember Sayid when Sayid tortured him in the Swan in season 2. he might forget everything directly after he was shot but surely he would remember the man who shot him right after he busted said man out of dharma-jail?
and yeah, i think next week is a ben episode.
― Roz, Sunday, 5 April 2009 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess you could argue that season 2 ben was playing the long game even then (after observing the castaways in the Swan via the Pearl) but it does seem weird that he cared less about sayid at that point, preferring to manipulate locke, jack, kate and sawyer instead. even if it was just because he needed a spinal surgeon then, you'd think ben would be more than just vaguely interested in the man who shot him as a child.
it's a cheap explanation but we're prob meant to take what Alpert said literally - at the very least, ben isn't going to remember sayid or kate or being taken to the temple to be healed.
I don't see him forgetting the non-Oceanic 6 castaways though, so we'll see how they deal with that.
― Roz, Sunday, 5 April 2009 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link
i think ben rejoins the dharma folk
also, maybe ben tries to reproduce the temple experience with karl's drum&bass room.
― abanana, Sunday, 5 April 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
For some damn reason I was thinking Aaron could be Sawyer when they zoomed up on him during this episode
Also, Miles & Hurley conversation (A+) leaves the whole time travel thing ambiguous, like the whole little Ben has to lose his memory spiel. I like that this is ambiguous because I would like to think that their future could change completely with what they do in the past...
― CaptainLorax, Sunday, 5 April 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
― abanana, Sunday, 5 April 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
:D
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 April 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Widmore riding Sawyer!
― President Keyes, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
The bit with Ben and the smoke monster was so shitty.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i was really afraid ben was gonna die
― c?rvel (ice cr?m), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
ya me too
i really enjoyed the episode except for that part which looked like it was in one of those 90s tarzan or stargate shows
― s1ocki, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
lol@ Ben and Widmore's hair
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Ben telling Ethan to hush reminded me of Corky St. Clair performing Johnny Savage's part.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
What lies in the shadow of the statue?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was totally let down by the cheapo homemade special fx that were inside Smokey. Why would it have to look inside like it does outside? I wanted swirling lights and something not so obvious. Boo dat.
Good ep overall, though.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Is_Dead/Theories#What_lies_in_the_shadow_of_the_statue.3F
― abanana, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
(ilx=back!) the special smokey effects were terrible, but otherwise it was a classic Lost episode!I SO loved Locke being an all knowing Locke, and Ben being scared as hell through this whole episode. WTF moment at Penny *not* being murdered, and WTF again at Ben pulling the drain, what the hell was that all about?
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
It wasn't even the special effects that bothered me, it was the Defending Your Life-esque slideshow of Ben life events.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Yea, that was really terrible, in a Mission to Mars kinda way
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
ya we had seen all that stuff already this episode - so unnecessary!
they actually looked like temporary special fx
― s1ocki, Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, the slideshow was all Alex stuff, but when Alex showed up, it seemed like she/the island didn't care about that stuff at all, and only cared that Ben had killed Locke. So why wasn't his killing of Locke (or the other time when he attempted to kill Locke) in the slideshow?
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link