V For Vendetta: The Movie

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allright I'm leaving this thread before this devolves into another ally/tombot internet bully gangbang - have fun

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

we will!

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(...Tuomas? It's safe, you can come back now.)

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah for real I don't mind tuomas' posts to this thread at all!

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

(saying that sounds like dick but I thought that thread would have more of his politics and not as much of his comics love, and was pleasantly surprised)

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Since when is criticism snobbish? [...] I don't think much of Westerns either.

criticism can be snobbish... or not!

i think my point re gainsborough stands, though this might not be the thread for it. 'hokum' is exactly the word critics used for it; and that word is pretty much always snobbish, ie a judgement on people-who-like-the-film: it rests on unstated prejudices about what we should be enjoying.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 16 November 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, sorry, but critics are gonna offend someone.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

well yes, but it's a matter of who and how. critics lording their superior refinement and taste over the other schlubs: recipe for shit sandwich. critics offending something that needs offending: ugogirl.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

wtf

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

WMBB television reporter Nadeen Yanes told her station that the man came up to the podium at the Bay District School Board meeting and said he had a motion. He then pulled out a can of red spray paint and painted a V with a circle around it.

Yanes told the station he pulled out a handgun and started talking. She said school board member Ginger Littleton hit the gunman with her purse and he pushed her to the ground and started firing randomly.

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ a great example of why concealed weapons should NOT be legal

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Ghonim, who comes from an affluent Egyptian family, said the activists who organized the January 25 protests intentionally designed their movement to be anonymous and faceless, without a clear leader. He cited the movie "V for Vendetta" as a source of inspiration.

we live in a strange world

lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

so should I see this movie?

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

it's all right

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

this movie was fucking terrible, so no.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

sadly it's still the best moore adaptation of them all.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

no surprise that the graphic novel's better & I should read it first.

this just seems to have become a visual touchstone for a lot of recent protests, not just Anonymous, so my curiosity's peaked

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

the graphic novel is also okay

tbh I got bored and never finished it

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

i was never too fond of the comic - i've reread it multiple times and cant even remember huge swaths of it - i cant imagine that the movie's anything less than awful

the book is good! i mean it's still overdramatic and hokey and purpley prosed in places but its got a good vibe. (that the movie totally blew out to look like every other overlit slick action thing.)

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

i mean a v for vendetta movie should ideally look more like i dunno an early mike leigh film than transporter 3 but whatta gonna do.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

This movie isn't awful, but it doesn't even come close to doing the source material justice either. I think it would be a lot lot better by casting someone else in the Weaving and Portman roles. I really love Stephen Fry in it and the visual presentation of the High Chancellor and his cronies was pretty cool.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

strongo OTM here

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

the ending is really badly botched, and no one in the film ever utters the word "anarchy", which is kind of amazing given the source material

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

what i never get about moore adaptations is that the original stories almost always have really strong slow build suspense lines and they basically come pre-storyboarded for you in terms of things like pacing. i know there are a lot of factors that can go into botching a film, but the original build-up to the public's unrest is one of the strongest and most natural parts of the book and ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE PICTURES TO SEE HOW TO STAGE IT.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

and no one in the film ever utters the word "anarchy"

that goes in the plus columng, imho

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah tacking on a trad fist-in-the-air we-the-people ending to a story that ended on a vague, disquieting, totally unresolved note was always gonna be an ugh.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

haha on the plus side we were spared stephen rea's lsd revelation at larkhill

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

i love alan moore like a crackpot grandpa but dude never did get over the 60s

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE PICTURES TO SEE HOW TO STAGE IT

tbf it doesn't sound like this worked so well with Watchmen... (I wouldn't know, as I have no interest in exposing my eyeballs to any of the horrible abortions Zack Snyder puts on screen)

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Moore's work is not aging well at all imo.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

watchmen is great, i haven't seen this, can't muster up any enthusiasm for it.

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

well the thing about "staging"/"pacing" in comics is that yr brain still has to do the fill in work between panels. moore's 80s stuff reads really "slow" to me (not a bad thing and totally fitting with the stories) as much to do with the art style as anything. but i guess if yr zach snyder you read that inexorable one panel at a time gibbons pacing as slsmbangpow action, prolly because zach snyder sees everything in life that way.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US? I skipped it because it looked horrible, but it seems to keep coming up on news sites so it's looking like something I've got to see

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Well, the imagery is arresting.

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

AND the movie made over $130 million, so a lot of ppl saw it.

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

also natalie portman does a full-nude striptease to motorhead

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

right, there's that

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US?/

it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

I quite like the film. In some ways it is like the book, and in other ways it is not.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

also this was a surprisingly middle-class revolution and they are internet nerds

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Moore's work is not aging well at all imo.

re-read his Swamp Thing run recently and that is still a ton of fun

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.

uh unarmed except for a train loaded with dynamite that blows up the houses of parliament

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

(a sequence which - in case it wasn't obvious from my comments above - is most definitely NOT in the book)

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

i remember seeing that sequence and thinking "yknow all this needs is more slo mo and a moody pixies song"

lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US? I skipped it because it looked horrible, but it seems to keep coming up on news sites so it's looking like something I've got to see

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:43 PM

u mean the grinning mask? feel like it was first adopted by 4chan/Anonymous as their way of hiding their identity when protesting against Scientology and then spread from there

am0n, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

looooooool

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

@ justen

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

movie's not over until something's blowed up amirite

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link


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