"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

I'm interested to see if Jack is going to encounter 1977-model Christian at any point.

gradyvsgrady (11:13:36 PM): and was like "you were awesome on sopranos... sorry, i dont watch lost"
gradyvsgrady (11:13:45 PM): miles goes "i dont either"

Some of the other actors have said similar stuff--in the press even. It must be terrible for these thespians to have to lower themselves to perform such material in order to pay the bills.

One of the great things about Lost is that the actors seem to have almost no power. Also the fandom seems more focused on the show runners and writers than the actors--as evidenced when Matthew Fox showed up at ComiCon with Damon and Carlton and no one asked him any questions--though one guy said that the "actor guy" could chime in too if he wanted to.

what if ghost christian is actually jack after he's been stuck on the island 30 years

that is an idea one could have

But who is his father???????

charlie?

pennie's boat is his father

the horse is his father

charlie horse

^^^^^^^^^^

some mindblowing shit here yall

"horse" = heroin = charlie

= jack's father obv

horse or.......horace???

tho also horse = heroin = "heroine" = kate? so maybe kate is jack's father

YES

If Charlie's father is the horse, where did the polar bears come from?

uh...the north pole?! DOI

polar bears normally come from ice laden areas.

x-post lol

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hahhahaha

the polar bear and the horse are brothers. their mother is annie.

how's annie?

She's doing well, thanks.

write it in u dairy

dudes, the writers are totally going to steal those theories from this thread

oh har har har

It must be terrible for these thespians to have to lower themselves to perform such material in order to pay the bills.

I don't think that's the attitude any of the actors have! That's kind of a weird leap. Are they all supposed to be nerd fanboys themselves? Of the big cast members, I think only Hurley is a total geek for all the plot twists.

Yeah, they're just not as nerdy as the audience of the show - nothing inherently wrong with that. I'd bet that's the case more often than it isn't when it comes to sci-fi/fantasy actors. Actors saying they don't watch their own show (at all, let alone religiously) is pretty common across the aboard, though you do hear about them catching it on Tivo or DVD occasionally.

One of the great things about Lost is that the actors seem to have almost no power. Also the fandom seems more focused on the show runners and writers than the actors...

Definitely agreed on this one, though this has probably become true of virtually every heavy continuity/plot-driven TV show of the last few years, building up cults around the showrunner/creator as much as the actors (i.e. BSG, The Wire, Deadwood, everything Joss Whedon, even How I Met Your Mother). It's a major shift in general for TV, not considering procedurals.

yeah i don't blame the actors for not watching the show or not following it properly - i imagine the way they shoot (with all the timelines and flashbacks, re-shooting scenes from different POVs etc) means they can't really read the scripts the way we see them on-screen and it's also pretty normal for actors to not watch themselves beyond the dailies.

i prob know way too much about this but matthew fox is surprisingly the biggest geek of them all, followed by jeremy davies who apparently loves quantum physics almost as much as his character does. naveen andrews doesn't watch the show at all and evangeline lilly hates the sci-fi/time-travel stuff. so ya know.. different levels of nerdery among the actors, as there prob are among lost fans in general.

Surely the reason Ben won't remember any of this is because he's been shot in the chest and is barely conscious?

Next episode is the Ben flashback right?

i think they were trying to explain why Ben doesn't remember Sayid when Sayid tortured him in the Swan in season 2. he might forget everything directly after he was shot but surely he would remember the man who shot him right after he busted said man out of dharma-jail?

and yeah, i think next week is a ben episode.

i guess you could argue that season 2 ben was playing the long game even then (after observing the castaways in the Swan via the Pearl) but it does seem weird that he cared less about sayid at that point, preferring to manipulate locke, jack, kate and sawyer instead. even if it was just because he needed a spinal surgeon then, you'd think ben would be more than just vaguely interested in the man who shot him as a child.

it's a cheap explanation but we're prob meant to take what Alpert said literally - at the very least, ben isn't going to remember sayid or kate or being taken to the temple to be healed.

I don't see him forgetting the non-Oceanic 6 castaways though, so we'll see how they deal with that.

i think ben rejoins the dharma folk

also, maybe ben tries to reproduce the temple experience with karl's drum&bass room.

For some damn reason I was thinking Aaron could be Sawyer when they zoomed up on him during this episode

Also, Miles & Hurley conversation (A+) leaves the whole time travel thing ambiguous, like the whole little Ben has to lose his memory spiel. I like that this is ambiguous because I would like to think that their future could change completely with what they do in the past...

:D

Widmore riding Sawyer!

The bit with Ben and the smoke monster was so shitty.

i was really afraid ben was gonna die

ya me too

i really enjoyed the episode except for that part which looked like it was in one of those 90s tarzan or stargate shows

lol@ Ben and Widmore's hair

Ben telling Ethan to hush reminded me of Corky St. Clair performing Johnny Savage's part.

What lies in the shadow of the statue?

Yeah, I was totally let down by the cheapo homemade special fx that were inside Smokey. Why would it have to look inside like it does outside? I wanted swirling lights and something not so obvious. Boo dat.

Good ep overall, though.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Is_Dead/Theories#What_lies_in_the_shadow_of_the_statue.3F

(ilx=back!) the special smokey effects were terrible, but otherwise it was a classic Lost episode!
I SO loved Locke being an all knowing Locke, and Ben being scared as hell through this whole episode. WTF moment at Penny *not* being murdered, and WTF again at Ben pulling the drain, what the hell was that all about?

It wasn't even the special effects that bothered me, it was the Defending Your Life-esque slideshow of Ben life events.

Yea, that was really terrible, in a Mission to Mars kinda way