San Francisco and what to do in it

the poster i saw on fb had jello in a harness

I don't do the Folsom St Fair, altho I did go many eons ago

Jello sounds like kind of a creep, based on the stories I hear at Rainbow anyway

Just went by that park where Cesar Chavez hits the 101 and a bunch of nuns were cutting hair for homeless people behind the backstop. One of them was holding a mirror up for a dude in a chair and he was touching his hair looking at it.

where's a good place to live if you need to get Caltrain? got a friend thinking of moving to the city around SOMA/Dogpatch/ Potrero Hill but for me SOMA is the only place I've felt properly nervous walking around alone. Maybe somewhere nearer 24th St Bart?

caltrain isn't anywhere near 24th and BART

Potrero Hill is probably best bet

The T and N-lines can pretty brutally slow above ground, but anywhere on those lines is a straight shot to the station. That's good for Dogpatch and maybe Duboce/Upper Haight. Anything farther west is probably too far and farther south is probably still a little too unpleasant.

Agree that Potrero is a pretty good bet although it's not exactly super direct unless you are close to the 10.

Basically SOMA is only part of city if you want to walk to Caltrain. It's pretty safe as far as I know.

If you bike to CalTrain you can basically draw a circle around an 3 inches around CalTrain on a muni map and you'll be fine.

Isn't there a 22nd St Caltrain station? I meant around 24th & Bryant area ish but that's still a good half-hour walk to 22nd st station.
Biking would be my recommendation, yeah

Is your friend independently wealthy

there is a 22nd Street stop. There is a freeway, giant hospital complex, and hill (Potrero Hill to be specific) between 24th/Bryant and the Caltrain station though. It is not convenient to get to from that side of the freeway.

why doesn't your friend just get an apartment in Belmont or Daly City?

thanks outic, I haven't been round that bit of town so wondered if that might be the case.
she wants to live in SF (it's not really someone I know well) as OH is working near Palo Alto. I was just wondering about decent places with an OK commute to Caltrain.

Is your friend independently wealthy

― polyphonic, Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:01 PM (16 minutes ago)

Potrero/Dogpatch is good. There's the soulless world of South Beach condos, but I wouldn't recommend it. I live in Mission Terrace, which is good for a car commute to Palo Alto. My wife does BART to CalTrain, which isn't TOO bad. Mission Terrace/Excelsior are also not quite as bad as the rest of SF, pricing-wise (I mean, still ridiculous, but not as bad).

agree that South Beach is really weird, as a neighborhood

honestly if someone (not saying your friend is) spending most of their waking hours commuting or at work on the peninsula, then does it really matter whether they live in SF proper or in a weird soulless South Beach condo

It does for me. Although at this point (kids, etc.) the peninsula is looking more appealing than it used to.

hey if anyone isnt doing anything on the 30th im throwing a crazy party at Cobbs Comedy Club and Ghoul and DJ Douggpound are playing!

Did we ever FAP Ned off? If not, how about a Doctor Who viewing party?

id rather ride the 38 at 5pm on a friday than sit through a dr who ep but fully down for a ned fap

i went to San Francisco yesterday! The people working at the bookstore I browsed were talking about their neighborhood -- in Oakland. That seemed strange to me.

I have no idea about her financial situation, guess she can afford to live in SF. I was going to be medium-term unemployed when we went so didn't want to be kicking around the Macarthur BART or wherever for 2 years so took the plunge and stayed in SF. SF rent was mad enough when we were there, no idea where we'd live if we moved back. Guess that's why we're never moving back.

which bookstore was that?

not interested in nu-Who but would be down to welcome Ned to the city

xp

Dog-eared -- the last one remaining from the Valencia st heyday. I guess Borderlands is still there, but it didn't open until the 2000s, and I always resented it because I really liked the used clothing store it replaced.

oh right, that's come up before I think (I love Borderlands even if they are a little goth-y because I am old school scifi nerd)

idk how Dog-Eared's managed to hold onto that spot tbh. Bunch of bookstores on 24th now, which is nice

My OH might be visiting SF for work, I am insanely jealous
I've been giving recs to this friend about all the places to eat and now I'm a bit sad I've left that life behind, and also really hungry

24th St is now home to a lot of Valencia St. refugees + Adobe. It still feels comfortable.

If you work in a bookstore you probably can't afford to live in sf.

I keep looking at places for laughs. My friends were living close to the haight - $1200 for a little under 500 sq ft - and their building got sold and now they're living way out on the edge of the city, in a smaller place, paying $1950.

haha my last apartment in SF was near the Haight and was $1200 -- for a standard Victorian 2 br.

n.b. that was in 1997

I paid $275 for a room on the top floor of a Haight St apt building in '96

my roommates were insane though

24th St is now home to a lot of Valencia St. refugees + Adobe. It still feels comfortable.

agree w this. 24th Street's p rockin these days imo. Bookstores, record store, las palmas, wise sons, manivanh

someone asked me recently about wise sons -- and I tried to summarize your and chaki's argument about it.

24 st is feeling more and more valencia-y every time i go there.

you are otm.

Considering I walk down it every day, yes, this is accurate.

Anyway I am fully down with a FAP that has nothing to do with Doctor Who, thanks.

(Tentatively, how do people feel about something this Sunday afternoon? The next few weekends after that will be full one way or another.)

I think I am going to be in a pumpkin patch sunday afternoon, not sure yet

I may be, gulp, house-hunting this Sunday, will know more later this week.

as a whole, ilx is always invited to drink at radio valencia sunday evenings while i do my show.

Can't do Sunday, hope to join something in the future.

xp - at the station?

24 st is feeling more and more valencia-y every time i go there.

― chaki (kurt schwitterz), Tuesday, October 6, 2015

valencia is feeling more and more polk-y so yeah

sounds like Amoeba is not long for the world:
http://m.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/can-legal-weed-save-the-music-industry/Content?oid=4526932

was wondering how they were managing to hang on with what must be huge overhead at those stores

the Berkeley store has cut its hours in the past few years. I'm guessing the SF store does better because of the Haight St. tourists and general foot traffic, whereas Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley is not what it used to be in that department

LA store was doing well last I heard.

Really tough to convince a townie to go to Telegraph these days ime

Imagine how weird it will be ... go grab tacos at Sinaloa, head down to Rasputin for an ice cream, and then over to Amoeba for some indica. Nice little day out on the town.

otoh the parking situation in the evening there is way easier than it used to be

I haven't been to Telegraph in years and they don't mention that the other stores are doing badly so yeah idk

I think rumors about Amoeba going out of business have been around for at least a decade.

though I guess I've never seen them tied to a specific location & in print before