zelda 2 the first game i ever beat. dark link an all-time end boss. (his cameo in ocarina is kind of misplaced and random.) a genuinely difficult game, probably less forgiving than the first (definitely meaner: ganon's digitized chuckle on game over) and the last zelda game to be hard at all. its dangerous places (the forests, the pitch-black caves, the big mess of rocky maze in the southwest, the town where people are bats) are stressful and frightening in ways no death mountain has ever been, and a combination of nes-memory restrictions on text and a number of NPCs hugely increased from the first game meant even the non-hostile townspeople (health-restoring hookers aside) seemed standoffish and terse. the rare game i remember (vividly) as a hostile place, remote from help, instead of as a beloved playground. it's also weirdly colorless, simultaneously too simple and too fiddly to be a working platformer, and (alone in the series) reliant on dedicated, mindless grinding without any of the monster or spell variety that's supposed to entertain you when you're doing that in FF games. so it probably deserves its reputation in comparison to the likes of zelda 1 and link to the past, but in the post-twilight-princess era of nintendo's long enslavement to ocarina of time it definitely shouldn't be called the series' worst anymore.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
I had a great idea for the upcoming Zelda game the other day. You start the game with a sword, shield, bow, boomerang and bombshttp://i44.tinypic.com/2z8ce9u.png
― The Once-ler, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
tbf the last Zelda game was in thrall to Link To The Past rather than Ocarina (and was all the better for it)
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
Myself and a few other guys are using Minecraft to build a working 3D remake of the original Zelda. Not sure how you guys feel about Minecraft, though.
― Evan, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
i'm trying to think of the most recently released game that has as much content as SMB3, with no save system.
Kid Chameleon (Genesis, 1992) had over 100 stages and no saves. Stages had multiple exits that lead to many paths through the game.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
those videos on graphics were really cool, thanks - somehow got this far in my life without knowing that stuff. wild about the 'color cells,' amazing how well the artists knew how to camouflage the boundaries. super cool.
high-fives to dlh. love this - "the rare game i remember (vividly) as a hostile place, remote from help, instead of as a beloved playground." totally. I AM ERROR. it's a bleak and ugly sort of hyrule you're saving here, not unlike the transylvania of castlevania ii but a lot more playable. i also think it should get credit for the dungeons, which are sometimes really irritating, and are nothing on the high-concept ones from link to the past, but again, legitimately hard, and considerably more varied than CV2's mansions which really all feel like the same place (and don't even have bosses!). and of course, the 'big rocky maze' - which IS death mountain! - thrown at you way too early in the game, super punishing. these mean motherfuckers, man:
http://www.nintendojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Zelda-Daira.png
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link
I'm on vacation so I don't have the master list handy. But I can post it on Tuesday. If anyone thinks some hang is missing, nominate it I won't get mad if it's a dupe.
― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Sunday, 6 September 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
Am I missing anything?
Atari CommandoAtari Dark ChambersAtari Desert FalconAtari Donkey Kong Jr.Atari Food FightAtari GalagaAtari Mario Bros.Atari Tower TopplerAtari XeviousNES 10 Yard FightNES 1943: battle of the midwayNES A Boy and His BlobNES Adventures of LoloNES Adventures of Lolo 3NES Bad DudesNES banana princeNES Base WarsNES Baseball Simulator 1.000NES Baseball StarsNES Bases LoadedNES BatmanNES Batman: Return of the JokerNES Battle of OlympusNES BattletoadsNES Bionic CommandoNES Blades of SteelNES Blaster MasterNES BombermanNES Bubble BobbleNES California GamesNES CastlevaniaNES Castlevania IINES Castlevania IIINES Cobra TriangleNES CommandoNES ContraNES Crisis ForceNES CrystalisNES Deja VuNES demon swordNES Destiny of an EmperorNES Double Dragon NES Double Dragon IINES Double DribbleNES Dr. MarioNES Dragon Warrior NES Dragon Warrior IINES Dragon Warrior IIINES Dragon Warrior IVNES Duck HuntNES DucktalesNES Ducktales 2NES Dusty Diamond's All-Star SoftballNES Earthbound ZeroNES ExcitebikeNES fantastic dizzyNES FaxanaduNES Fester's QuestNES Final FantasyNES Friday the 13thNES gargoyle's quest iiNES GauntletNES Ghosts 'n' GoblinsNES GolfNES Golgo 13NES Goonies IINES GradiusNES Gradius 2NES GumshoeNES Hogan's AlleyNES holy diverNES ice climberNES Ice HockeyNES Ikari WarriorsNES Impossible MissionNES JackalNES KarnovNES Kick MasterNES Kid IcarusNES Kirby's AdventureNES Kung FuNES Legacy of the WizardNES LemmingsNES Life ForceNES Little League Baseball: Championship SeriesNES Little Nemo: The Dream MasterNES M.C. KidsNES Mach RiderNES Maniac MansionNES Marble MadnessNES Mega Man NES Mega Man IINES Mega Man IIINES Mega Man IVNES Metal GearNES Metal Gear IINES MetroidNES Mike Tyson's Punch OutNES Mission ImpossibleNES NARCNES Ninja GaidenNES Ninja Gaiden IINES Ninja Gaiden IIINES Nobunaga's AmbitionNES OtockyNES Over HorizonNES Parodius DaNES prince of persiaNES Pro WrestlingNES Rad RacerNES RampageNES RBI BaseballNES RC Pro AmNES RC Pro Am IINES ReccaNES Rescue RangersNES Ring KingNES River City RansomNES Rockin' KatsNES Romance of the Three KingdomsNES Rush n AttackNES RygarNES Section ZNES ShadowgateNES Smash TVNES Snake, Rattle & Roll NES Solar JetmanNES Spy HunterNES StarTropicsNES StarTropics 2NES StriderNES Super CNES super dodge ballNES Super Mario BrosNES Super Mario Bros 2NES Super Mario Bros 3NES Super Spike V'BallNES sweet homeNES Swords and SerpentsNES Tecmo BaseballNES Tecmo BowlNES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles INES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IINES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IIINES TetrisNES The Adventures of Rad GravityNES The ImmortalNES The Legend of ZeldaNES The Legend of Zelda IINES Tiger HeliNES Town & Country Surf Designs: Wood & Water RageNES Track and FieldNES Ufouria: The SagaNES Ultima ExodusNES UninvitedNES Urban ChampionNES Wall Street KidNES WillowNES Winter GamesNES Wizards and WarriorsNES YoshiNES Yoshi's CookieNES ZanacSega Action FighterSega Alex Kidd in Miracle WorldSega alex kidd in shinobi worldSega Altered BeastSega Batman ReturnsSega columnsSega enduro racerSega fantasy zoneSega GhostbustersSega Golden Axe WarriorSega golvellius: valley of doomSega James "Buster" Douglas Knockout BoxingSega Kung Fu KidSega Mickey Mouse Castle Of IllusionSega miracle warriorsSega operation wolfSega Phantasy StarSega psycho foxSega rampageSega rampartSega Revenge of ShinobiSega rockySega r-typeSega Shadow DancerSega shadow of the beastSega ShinobiSega smash tvSega snail mazeSega sonic chaosSega Space HarrierSega SpeedballSega Speedball 2Sega Spy vs. SpySega Super Monaco GPSega teddy boySega TransBotSega ultima ivSega Wonder Boy in Monster WorldSega Wonderboy III: The Dragon's TrapSega ysSega ZillionSega Zillion II: The Tri Formation
― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
Nes Balloon FightNes Donkey Kong JrNes Flintstones: The Rescue of Dino & HoppyNes Guerilla WarNes Wizards and Warriors II: Ironsword
― The Once-ler, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
Those are going to be the final nominations unless someone else adds to it in the next ~3 hours, going to start the new thread around 7pm Eastern! (also sorry it took me so long!)
― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link