considering its television theyre pretty great
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
game of thrones whole aesthetic is very much "bad special effects"
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
when ur in winter everything is very dire gray digital filters as stannis burns up his only child
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link
Gonna go back and watch an episode of Xena just to be sure I'm not setting the bar too low.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link
feel like rob stark has prob done this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 June 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
or the actor who plays john snow
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 June 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
thats a clip from the red wedding iirc
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
is dany waiting for the dragons to grow up more before trying to take over westeros? it became really clear to me this episode (tho really this has been a good question for a while) that dany is stalling for time until the narrative is ready for her to invade. so now she has all this free time to preside over the fighting pits and squabble w/ local sectarian religious groups, etc. but it can't be doing wonders for her army to have them being whittled away by all these ambushes just to- what? - return some level of stability to this city she conquered? she should take her army while it's still pretty strong, load them up, and march into westeros. it's not like the timing is going to get better.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
she talked about breaking the wheel which should really mean there being no iron throne/central seat of power - maybe her 'plan' is to take it then immediately destroy it and fly off
― nashwan, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
ok but still what better time to swoop in and break the wheel than now? why wait another year or two for her armies to erode further? afaict she's not like actively recruiting new infantry.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
She just lost two of her three best warriors and her strongest dragon almost got murdered by a bunch of nobodies. I don't think the timing is quite right atm
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
I think Dany's army is far too small at this point to match the forces of Westeros, which is why she's banking on popular support. She views freeing this city as a sort of testing ground, where she shows the commoners what kind of queen she will be.
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
xxxxxxxxps to sloth re unsullied: i dunno man, these guys are getting killed left and right by everybody; seems like you pay for an army of gelded death machines maybe they're okay at stopping a bunch of landowners in masks with daggers?
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
and if the unsullied are exceptional in the field of combat and terrible at asymmetrical urban warfare - maybe ditch the urban occupation and utilize their strengths?
― Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
how are they in the snow
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
they know nothing
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
maybe this is just a story about how an occupying power with the best of intentions cannot compete w/ an indigenous, guerrilla organization. do we even get the sense that dany is acting aggressively towards putting down this rebellion? it seems like she's spending all her time watching battles and getting married and not enough time conducting midnight raids in parts of the city sympathetic to the revolution.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
think the issue is, and was raised here before, that this army of masked dudes is kind of unbelievable. where were these guys, for ex, when all these cities were being taken over by lightly armed, recently liberated, and (most notably perhaps) untrained former slaves? seems like they are this limitless supply of highly trained assassins that just materialized to present a challenge (i.e. weak writing)
― head clowning instructor (art), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
Her government has been really bad at identifying the bodies of the people who were trying to kill her. You'd think they could trace a few of them back to their families?
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
well they all look the same with those masks on
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
seems like a thousand guys attended a heavily guarded arena with masks proving they're part of a rebellion army stuck in their capes and the omnipresent militia didn't notice at all, no biggie
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
this is how the security state gets started
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Never before has a tv show bored and depressed simultaneously like this season of GoT.
― Darin, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Next thing you know Dany's going to be tapping ravens
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
don't get me wrong though: i think getting indignant about those kind of plot inconsistencies is sorta pointless. like, there's a fucking dragon in this, it's okay if there's some hard-to-believe construction in the storyline. but that applies to the whole STANNIS IS DEAD TO ME stuff too; dude has been burning people from jump and they telegraphed this coming for three episodes. ;
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
I think it's pretty lol that people warmed to Stannis after a couple of scenes of him not being a complete prig
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, June 8, 2015 2:24 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i mean i will not discount the possibility of being totally wrong thinking there's a real reason & the show just flipping the script/allowing them to be the subject of ambushes for lazy writing reasons, but the show is generally well-plotted/thought out esp. re: world building and detail shit (if not always plot) so i figured there was an in-world reason. friend of in conversation also suggested that having their freedom (such as it is) for some time now could've made them a bit out of practice?
but of course could just be yadda-yaddaing to get to the next point on dany's map route. then again if it gets us out of meereen not the worst thing? lol
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
unsullied just need to get some swords instead of those sticks
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
maybe tyrion will invent guns
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
he'll unveil them at the next fighting pit tournament with the words "WELCOME TO THE GUN SHOW"
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
you don't need to be bailed out by your flying dragon if your army of dickless wonders are actually wonders i guessthis has been, in general, an off season but hey: zombie fight in the /with the snow! that buys you several hours of patience.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
*& the show is just
realize i just contradicted myself bc i did not proofread before clicking post - better phrasing: the story is well told and the world well built but the moment to moment gears of plot can sometimes jam. something like this could be an example of that and benioff/weiss are just like "ehhh let's just get through the next pages" when they come to minor but annoying snags
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
The Stannis thing is also hilarious; basically because dude was nice to his daughter, half the viewers forgot that he's a total Tywin/Roose-style bastard who is in it for the power.
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
The unsullied were a slave army working for some lame regional warlord. They're tough, but they're not legendary badasses.
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
it's to the show's credit that it can continue to shock + anger viewers. it's not really to the viewers' credit tho.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
xp uh, i dunno about thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfyW1Efiiw
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
stannis and sheerin relaysh was the second time there was a moderately heartwarming exchange between a father and a scorned offspring, followed shortly thereafter by the father at least trying to kill them (tywin and tyrion the other iirc)
― nomar, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
xp these guys were supposed to master the shield, the short sword and the three spears. Only one boy in four survive training. They go out and kill babies in front of their mothers and pop off nipples like pringles. They seem fairly legendary to me.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
sounds like bullshit to me. I bet 3 in 4 survive training.
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
Yeah would be a lot less irritated by unsullied use/swordlessness if they hadn't gone so far out of their way to hype them up in that scene.
Feel like he could just as easily have drugged one specific dude for the nipple trick though.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
lol at unsullied truthers"okay but have you ever SEEN that they have no balls?"
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
spears can't melt steel beams, folks.
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
― tsrobodo, Monday, June 8, 2015 2:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It was just a pepperoni. Classic salesman technique.
― Evan, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
Damn, if these guys can kill babies they must be real tough
― polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty confused about the sons of the harpy now tbh.
I thought this was a perfectly decent episode, though it felt like the last scene was episode 10 material. I think every season but 4 ended with dany and her dragons?
― nomar, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
sons of the harpy are like the Baathists in Iraq after the US-invasion--if they were all ninjas
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
exactly - a fair amount of them are prob pit fighters who were out of work (may have said this weeks ago), although just bc the fighting pits are open doesn't mean they dont want to overthrow her for a lot of reasons
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
The bit where the harpies had Dany & co. surrounded and were hesitantly attacking one at a time really reminded me of this...
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/article/game-thrones-fans-shocked-after-some-little-goblin-50606
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
I found myself being concerned about the quality of Arya's cockles and clams which she seemed to cart around all day in the sun. One character in the brothel said they were "fresh", which I found hard to believe. Anyway, that brothel scene was not only ugh but didn't really go anywhere. I expected Arya to be drafted into service by the madam when that guy kept wanting someone younger. But no, she was shooed out and that was that.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link