don't think he came back except as a hurley inviso-hallucination
― Roz, Sunday, 29 March 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yes 5dimensional superghost = inviso-hallucinationnow that jin can speak english, this opens the possibility that hurley's "have a nice clucking day" dream-episode where jin speaks english is actually time traveling superghost jin (who is not bound by space or time) messing with hurley.
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 29 March 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
it doesn't open it that much
― Local Garda, Sunday, 29 March 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
A MAN CAN DREAM...also holding out hope that brother mouzone from the wire will avenge daniels' death. there was no need for ben to do him like that.
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 29 March 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I will sign on with all of these fine ideas
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Sunday, 29 March 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG Brother Mouzone would be incredible in Lost. He and Ben would just deadpan each other to death.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think they can do too much with re-arranged timelines without seriously fucking up the chronology of the show and they seem to be trying to avoid that. Maybe the reason no one noticed the Namaste picture is just that none of the survivors had been in that house before?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah maybe. and the dock could definitely just be messed up from when Locke blew up the sub (which is what I thought when I was watching the episode).
― dmr, Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
nah we saw them witness the explosion which took out just the sub.
i just assumed the destruction was down to keamy and co.
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe the reason no one noticed the Namaste picture is just that none of the survivors had been in that house before?
Sawyer's group probably went in there, I just imagine that it was hidden in plain sight so to speak.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Sunday, 29 March 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a weird apocalyptic feel to the present day island - place is totally trashed and it seems like there's hardly anyone there.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 29 March 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
This so reminds me of:
http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/shining-foto-thumb.jpg
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 29 March 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post Well, it's true that no one would be there-- the 815ers are mostly in 1977, the Others abandoned the Barracks, the paramilitary guys are toast. I'll need a little more weirdness before I start thinking the 316ers are in an alternate timeline.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 29 March 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
heh, in that picture the guy just up and to the right of Jack looks like "Phil" from the Dharma Initiative.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 30 March 2009 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Ooh, y'all. I like where this is going.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yawn. juice box.
― cutty, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, there was nothing really intense or urgent enough about this ep.
― tehresa, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
What, you people are crazy. This episode was all about the funs, with a little bit of resolution. Myles and Hurley conversation = A+++
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
The Ben Linus theme this week into next is like television candy for me, as well.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link
kate is soooooooooo stupid
― abanana, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link
nah in her stupidity kate did exactly what she was supposed to do. i normally hate kate episodes but quite liked this one, even though her scenes with aaron are still cringe-y.
didn't like the "ben will forget this happened" bit though, would've been ten times better if everything he did as an adult was because he already knew who the castaways were in his past.
so you go into the temple, you come out as an Other?
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Myles and Hurley conversation = A+++
^^^and this.
also lol i like nu-douchebag jack better than old douchebag jack - dude's such an asshole.
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link
YES. I love the symmetry of Jack and "Sawyer" changing places as the series moves from one end to the other. Would not be surprised to see James doing something heroic at the end, the way Jack took charge in episode 01-01.
― WmC, Thursday, 2 April 2009 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link
ditto on lovin' neo-douchebag, grunge-listening, finally-realizing-that-Kate-is-just-selfish-and-manipulative Jack
― Nhex, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I know some people are suspecting a Sawyer death this season, but I really think he's around til the end now....for the exact reasons WmC mentioned above.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I still think Sayid is going to be the S5 death.
― WmC, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Sayid really serves zero purpose at this point, right?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, if his purpose was to shoot 12yo Ben and 12yo doesn't die but does become an Other, then purpose served.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah death seems more likely to be sayid's now. :( i wanted to see him do his requisite 10 mins of ass-kicking per season in S6.
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link
so stoked for next week's episode - i've missed Locke.
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link
That said, looking forward to adult Ben to start dematerializing in front of everyone while jamming on Johnny B. Goode.― Philip Nunez, Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
LOL, sometimes I think the writers read this thread. The dialog b/w Hurley & Miles totally saved this episode from Kate emo-dullsville (though as a "Kate" episode, it was a cut above, which isn't saying much, but still..) & made a convincing argument for a series spinoff with H/M as wacky mismatched roommates which would consist primarily of Miles growing progressively impatient while trying to explain complex metaphysical concepts to an ever-inquisitive Hurley.
Also: Ben being all o_O @ coming to w/ Locke sitting by his bedside = classic. I'm looking forward to that conversation.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 April 2009 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I think this is maybe my favorite season of the show.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link
ya miles + hurley conversation sounded like a thousand lost forum discussions.
i wonder if miles still sees dead people.
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link
amusing that pillbox thinks we are the foremost lost scholars on the internet
― cutty, Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:08 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh weakest episode of the season so far
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― Event Horizon (Nicole), Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Good casting.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Kate flirting with Ben's dad creepy in so many ways. With Sawyer paired up with Juliet and Kate hating Jack, why not give Miles a spin first? Oh, Kate.
Better than most Kate episodes, but still kind of blah. I would have liked to see more of Kate and Cassidy - I missed a few minutes after the first commercial break so maybe it was then. And she didn't seem to tell Sawyer "btw, I already knew Cassidy" which would have been an interesting conversation. :P
Myles/Hurley was A+
Can't wait to see more of Locke in the, uh, "land of the living"!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Can't wait for next week's Ben/Locke chat. "Now, now, now, now John, you know I had to kill you, right? We're still pals?"
― WmC, Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
"It was just a bit of fun, let's be cool..."
― Event Horizon (Nicole), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i hated alpert's disclaimer 'if we take him he won't remember and will lose his innocence, kthx!'
― tehresa, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
v convenient
yeah, nice dialogue
― cutty, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder what exactly they meant by "lose his innocence" anyway, I hope that gets explored in the next episode. Didn't get to see the preview but I heard there is a lot of Ben coming our way, possibly some Desmond/Penny boat murder (attempts?? I hope) & maybe even the Rousseau/Alex kidnapping! Bring it!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe it's what he meant when he said he was "born on the island". Reborn?
― Roz, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Judging from the "next week on Lost" clip, Ben's attempt on Penny's life will be next week. But there was one little thing in that clip that makes me think he doesn't succeed.
― WmC, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
― tehresa, Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:27 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah that bothered me too. after the whole Miles-Hurley bit, which was funny but sort of all "stop thinking about this show so hard" and ends with the "why wouldn't adult Ben remember Sayid" paradox (zing) ..... they then feel the need to throw in a dumb explanation for why adult Ben wouldn't know Sayid.
― dmr, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
made so much more sense for Ben to remember all those people from his childhood, thus he's been tracking them all along making lists etc.
― dmr, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
so it seems like Widmoer and Elly are the head of the others in 1977, I guess we'll get to see how Ben pulls off that coup and sends Charles into exile or something
― dmr, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, that was what i wanted his motivation to be!xpost
― tehresa, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link