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An imminent G5 (or otherwise-named next-gen) PowerBook has been rumored since January 2004. Sooner or later, the rumors will be true. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
As far as the value goes, the OS is a nice perk that you can only get with an Apple laptop. As is nigh-invulnerability to malware of all kinds, for which I'd happily pay a one-time fee of, say, a few hundred bucks.
Beyond that, the 1.67gHz pbooks actually stack up pretty well against similarly configured "stylish" PC laptops (e.g., Sony VAIO with Bluetooth/wifi/80GB HD, DVD-RW). They're just less customizable and there are fewer "budget" options.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
A thin'n'light would be more apples-to-apples, and the lowest I can get in comparably configured would be about $1700, saving a pound or so on a pbook but giving up a diagonal inch of screen.
Anyhoo, I freely acknowledge that you can get a PC box for less. Just not so much less, all things considered.
Of course, OS X for Intel is already rumored to have leaked into the wild, which could make this whole conversation moot (no matter how staunchly Apple insists that OS X will not be licensed for use outside of Apple machines...)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm not going to be doing any real graphics work but i'll be doing lots of matlab/mathematica and lots of desktop publishing.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
so, um, what's better criteria?
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Comparing "1.5gHz w/1GB vs. 1.67 gHz w/512MB" makes not so much sense, as the 1.67 is just as easily upgradeable. If you get the machine from Apple and opt for the 1-stick upgrade to 1GB it's actually kinda reasonably priced. Otherwise, Crucial/Other World is definitely the way to go.
The point is, it's a cheap, easy upgrade that you can do any time. So it makes sense to go for the machine with greater expandability (15"). And for desktop publishing you'll appreciate the screen (and potentially the VRAM upgrade as well (ONLY available if you order from Apple).
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Haha purple money!!! Thank god only you think like that or I'd be just another drum machine busker.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
OS X VNC could give you a little more time to figure out the answer, I would think.
http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Tom that's interesting, but I would still need a... screen.
Ed, ditto, but what the hell am I serving. Oh yeah, nothing.
There's a 1.33 GHz powerbook here for $200 less than the 1.5, except it has a Spanish keyboard!! I seriously think I might get it. Are there any other major diffs between them? I can't really tell and the staff here is a little overwhelmed.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
No real diff between the 1.33 and the 1.5, other than the bleeding obvious.
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Tell the salesduder @ tekserve you'll take the Apple Store offer! Show it to him! Fuck you pay me etc.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Tom I don't get it though, I would need to like, go over to a friend's house in order to use my computer, right? Unless you are talking about the SHHHH OPTICAL IMPLANTS SHHHHH I NEVER SAID THAT.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Assuming the other specs are the same, this should be a no-brainer.
A. It's a more recent vintage.B. It has a keyboard en ingles.C. iirc, the Apple refurbs come with a full warranty and are AppleCare eligible. (Which would be the clincher!)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
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