that came out weird. was trying to say that this type of crime can always have doubt cast upon it in a way that murder cannot. You can debate who murdered the corpse but not that a murder occurred
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
ok but is that relevant to determining what level of confidence you should have before accusing someone of a crime?
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
you don't know if a crime occurred v. you know a crime for sure occurred but you don't know who did it -- in either case you're going to publish something damaging about a person w/out having the facts about /their/ particular involvement
full disclosure just wanna say i haven't watch louie in a few seasons and i got pretty bored of him. i did watch the snl monologue bc my mom made me. i thought it had some funny moments. i like the face he made while enjoying his imaginary mounts bar.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
everyone is acting like he's getting publically crucified but i doubt it'll hurt his audiencetbh would not be surprised is there were some 5-eipsode arc about this on next season of louie, talking it out with some celebrity hero
― he sounds like a parrot eating a carrot (Crabbits), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
xposts lonely doughy brotakus see him as the man using THE TRUTH to understand [the lonely doughy brotaku version of] HUMANITY (cf the onion a/v writer who used a sitcom as a "hay this funny ha-ha show reminds me of the time i almost hit my wife *writes many grafs*") so it's time to play TOWER DEFENSE AT THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS
― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
like him & dov charney broing down over it in a very special episode shot by terry richardson
― he sounds like a parrot eating a carrot (Crabbits), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
xp people def seem to take LCK's (and Maron's, Patton's, etc) alt-jokes as OTM life advice more often than they probably should
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
also iirc ppl started liking louie bc he talked about things like sexism/racism etc in a way that resonated w/ the contemporary liberal urban adult. which might mean it's even grosser if it's true (like that he could front all of these good things while acting like a POS in private), but it's not like he became popular bc he did some kind of hicks-esque speaking truth to power.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
he did try to include a fat lady in an episode once about how unfuckable she was; that was very nice
― he sounds like a parrot eating a carrot (Crabbits), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
(like that he could front all of these good things while acting like a POS in private)
i thought this was also a known part of his schtick
― example (crüt), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
it's not like he became popular bc he did some kind of hicks-esque speaking truth to power.
― Mordy, Monday, May 18, 2015 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its not true to power, its its funny because its true
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
(cf the onion a/v writer who used a sitcom as a "hay this funny ha-ha show reminds me of the time i almost hit my wife *writes many grafs*")
did an av club writer actually write a review like that?
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
am i wrong in feeling like a big part of his appeal is "he's just a schlubby looking guy trying to do the right thing" from a left-leaning pov? not just "it's funny bc it's true," but "i really relate to trying hard not to be a sexist + racist despite the programming of my culture."
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
that was the subtext of his racism bit on SNL i think. "i'm trying so hard not to be racist but those thoughts keep creeping in"
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
heard this story about LCK last year from a pretty close friend, the victims were named, and were known personally to the person telling me
don't think it's all that hard to figure out who the Female Comedy Duo in the story was.
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
that is accurate imo xp
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah def, his audience is not "lonely doughy ppl," those dudes are busy listening to MRA-ass dipshit bill burr and other way further to the right comedians
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I cringe every time I see J0rdan or any other writer comment in response to an anecdote asking for email contact. It kind of implies someone is going to ignore the email address and solication for information at the end of the article unless they're personally addressed, and just screams "we don't have a private messaging system in kinja so I'm going to keep this real classy"
also reminds me that they must not have a drinking fountain in the gawker office
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
dont read the comments
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
how else am I going to read the content on the site?
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
read the comments first, then see if the story is worthwhile, kinja-style
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
you arent doing a good job of measuring the temperature in the room
Perhaps not, but it feels like a room where you and Whiney are defending the kind of insubstantial clickbait that he in particular often (admirably) rails against. Except this time it's your mate so different rules apply.
― Position Position, Monday, 18 May 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
i don't think this is insubstantial clickbait
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 18 May 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
according to my analytics the term clickbait currently has the widest spread between perceived and actual profundity on the whole damn internet, amazing
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i thought that his schtick might just be his schtick but it supposedly comes from a place of actual self-examination and deconstruction, so if the allegations were true that's kinda bad news generally for self-examination and deconstruction vis-a-vis not being an asshole.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
/whispers/ the ability to be an asshole is within us all
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
that ppl on ilx might think there are intellectual shortcut paths to either not being an asshole or to mitigate being an asshole should maybe not surprise one I guess, but attributing overmuch based on one post is always a danger
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 18 May 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
he's made himself the public face of admitting you're an asshole, it's supposed to help you stop that kind of behavior is what my takeaway from his act was.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
its prob does but its no cure
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
apparently
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
allegedly
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 18 May 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
obviously
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
like i'm aware that a performer's public face differs from his private one but a huge part of his act and appeal is that he connects the two; his stance i thought is that his comedy comes from a really personal space that he's fearlessly revealing to the public for the edification of us all
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
like r. crumb but i guess that's qed re: asshole
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
im sure louis like all non total sociopath wants to be a better person, like the rest of us he also wants other things, theres a tension there
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
it's a very public tension, is the deal here. he makes his money off of it, it's what he's selling.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
sure i guess thats why were talking about it
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8JOi1q5ugs&sns=em
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
just checking in before literally never coming back to read everyone's bullshit opinions
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:56 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 18 May 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
why ilx at all at that point
― Evan, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
wow rude
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah seriously.
differences aside, i'm glad to exist on a message board with all of you. we don't say that enough. keep the bullshit coming.
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
I posted that in full approval <3 schlump
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 18 May 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
he's just a schlumpy looking guy trying to do the right thing
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
WTF why won't the site let me remove the bookmark from this thread
― DJP, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link
there's a lot of snark being thrown around re: CK's persona or whatever but there's been a lot of Louie that I've found to be unusually perceptive and even touching w/r/t modern masculinity, dating, aging, self-loathing, gender dynamics and especially parenting. that's why I find this aspect of him, if true (which it probably is - these things are almost never just made up for kicks) exceptionally depressing.
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
xpost the site is going to keep you bookmarked on this thread until it finishes what its doing.
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
don't worry, the thread will release you in its time. it works in mysterious ways.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link
simon otm abt how louie seems perceptive abt issues of masculinity in his show and that this, if true, would be a kick in the teeth. i don't know that this is more likely to be true than not. i suspect j0rdan probably has some better sources up his sleeve but i really have no idea. i have seen people make shit up before, especially when they are protected by anonymity. it's not like this is a victim talking, it's just this bro goes by the name of "jason"
― Treeship, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link