Is this show still any good? I was a flag waving fan early on, but I think I just stopped watching during that Hungarian girl arc a season ago. Show seemed to be getting weaker and weaker as it went on.
Right after the Hungarian girl was the 90-minute movie-story with Jeremy Renner as a drug dealer, and that was a new high for the show.
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 17 May 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
that episode was awful. like every weak coming of age indie dramedy that makes the festival/cable rounds thrown in a blender.
― some dude, Sunday, 17 May 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
this season has been much better than last imo
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 May 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Mordy’s right, if a beloved comedian is suspected of repeatedly sexually assaulting women, the media definitely has an obligation to just let it blow over without looking into it too much. if the controversy is meant to be, it’ll come back around in a decade or so.
― some dude, Sunday, 17 May 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
why doesn't the NYT attribute more stories to my anonymous cousin's fiancee? it's for the greater good it doesn't matter if it's true.
― Mordy, Sunday, 17 May 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
thankfully no one went around smearing bill cosby's name like this back when the accusers were afraid to come forward
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 17 May 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
lol you guys. i guess keep your fingers crossed you don't get burnt by a bad source on a big story that just needs to be told even w/out confirmation (cf RS), and that if it does happen, you aren't sued for too much.
― Mordy, Sunday, 17 May 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
kind of weird/shitty how ilx went from being mildly social justicey for like half a year to now full on meninist
― flopson, Monday, 18 May 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link
treeship and jjjusten full retard atm
― flopson, Monday, 18 May 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link
singing a hymn to social justice & signing off "full retard": i shake my damn head at you man
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 18 May 2015 05:38 (nine years ago) link
lol my bad. not trying to sign the hymn just annoyed that the pendulum has swung so far back in the other direction
― flopson, Monday, 18 May 2015 05:44 (nine years ago) link
I have zero problems at all believing Louis is capable of this and completely understand why the women who've been on the other end of it might not want to put a name to these stories. The Rolling Stone situation poisoned a lot of things, but there's almost always truth behind open secrets like this.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 05:48 (nine years ago) link
yes, def. still don't know if it's responsible to publish this with only anonymous tips.
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 07:17 (nine years ago) link
*secondhand tips, sorry
Jordan are you seriously citing routines from Louis CK’s standup and plots from his TV show as corroborating evidence? or are you joking?
if the former, it would be very hard to trust your intelligence and judgment about anything, including the credibility (or lack thereof) of the anonymous accusations you’ve now published online.
if may very well be that Louis CK is a lech and a harrasser, but it won’t be because he writes about those things.
good riddance to the whole strain of "journalism" you represent. i hope you are well paid, at least.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Monday, 18 May 2015 08:30 (nine years ago) link
I think what everyone's trying to say is that actually, it's abou
― time trafel 2015 💨 2012 (wins), Monday, 18 May 2015 10:35 (nine years ago) link
loool
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 18 May 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link
When I was a kid, flashing people your dick was called "acing", as in "Paul aced Stacy on the way home from school."
― turlte party (how's life), Monday, 18 May 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link
Something so weird about this way of doing a piece---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SDZI heard about this from a friend who lives in la, does stand up, and writes for grantland about two years ago. He was explaining why he couldn't watch the show anymore
Jordan SargentWanna email me?
SDZI don't really have any information beyond what I shared.
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St. Elsewhere Fan #1I’m a comedian, and this is a pretty well-known thing.
jordansargentWanna email me?
St. Elsewhere Fan #1Don’t think so, thanks.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 18 May 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link
hey guys, whoa, watch out. you know that if you oppose gawker it means you are supporting men's rights hate groups?
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link
that's how it works. there are just two positions.
I'm sure you're just abiding by Gawker's sub-tabloid rules in these instances Jordan, but man is it creepy/disgusting. Either you've got a substantive story or you haven't. This makes it look like you're hell bent on bringing down CK but don't have enough facts at hand to pull it off.
― Position Position, Monday, 18 May 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
cannot believe Jordan is reaching out to people voluntarily providing free, anonymous tips to the website he works, what a slimeball
― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
hell bent on bringing down CK but don't have enough facts at hand to pull it off.
Wait is Jordan the same writer who wrote the piece a few months ago about how Fred Armisen likes to sleep around and how there were comments on Stereogum that he had herpes or whatever?
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 18 May 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
if you have information about whether or not a guy was the author of two pieces easily searchable on the internet, wanna email me?
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
Don’t think so, thanks.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 18 May 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
anonymity guaranteed
― There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Monday, 18 May 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 18, 2015 11:38 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's reaching out for free, anonymous tips in such a way that it seems to be preventing certain people from coming forward on the issue he's covering though. Surely that's not a good thing if these allegations are true? Anyway Whiney, didn't you work with Jordan at Spin? Seems unlikely you'd remain impartial on this thing.
― Position Position, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Jordan jerked off in front of me at SPIN, in the form of a The-Dream feature
― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
just when I thought this thread couldn't get any more unpleasant
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
You guys do realise you don't know shit about who the sources actually are, right?
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
(I mean Treesh and crew obviously)
the tipster works a 9-to-5 job but does comedy at night
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
he looks good in whatever he wears
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Phil is so clearly the tipsterhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7c5y1v1tz1qd6v30o1_500.jpg
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Alan also giving that "I am the tipster" look
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
Mike may actually be Phil w/ a haircut and no glasses. So I suspect that he may also be our tipster.
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
I used to know a lot of comics around SF, all of them were creeps, none of this particularly surprises me if it's true, call me back if he actually rapes someone like Cosby though.
― akm, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Like, I was just thinking yesterday, actually, why is exposing your body to someone such a huge crime? (this was prompted by an NPR story about sex offenders). I get it if it's kids, or something, but is the world so fragile that just the site of a penis enough to destroy your serenity? Indicative of a problem, sure, but criminal? give me a break.
― akm, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
i mean..... the job of a reporter is to collect information. just because someone is posting in the comments section of an article does not mean they do not have worthy information. most of the time they don't, but sometimes they do. this is true even for people who don't post in comment sections. the only way to find out is by hearing what a person has to say. i don't see how it's in the interest of a reporter to turn away or not seek out information about a story they're working on. that's basically antithetical to the job, actually.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 May 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
xp he allegedly masturbated in front of them while blocking their safe exit. this is and definitely should be a crime.
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
Xp If a woman can't breastfeed comfortably in public or relax idly in a public park without her nipples concealed, I'd say we're not ready for full frontal for another several steps.
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
ime it is very rare for a journalist to write a story and then try to source it in its own comment thread. what a brave new world.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
One of the comments links to a statement from one of the women that that's not how it went down, though. I don't have any difficulty believing he's capable of this but blind items are awfully difficult to base an assumption of guilt on.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 18 May 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
^^^^^
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
i mean..... the job of a reporter is to collect information.
A good reporter knows to have some tact/diplomacy when approaching a subject with potentially sensitive information. "Wanna email me?" is just amateur hour. I do realize that asking a Gawker writer to have tact/diplomacy is kind of hilarious.
― Position Position, Monday, 18 May 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah exactly. it's not that i am flabbergasted by the possibility - he could be a serial killer i have no idea. god knows powerful men abuse their power to mistreat women. but still, a person's reputation isn't like a trivial thing you can just kick around for the fuck of it. if you're going to say stuff like this you should at least have something solid. i felt the same way when people were calling lena dunham a "child molester" based on a weird passage in her book.
should also note that this has nothing to do with how i feel about the people involved. i don't care at all about louis ck. tao lin is my favorite contemporary author but i didn't dare try to defend him when ER Kennedy came forward about his experiences.
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
tao lin is my favorite contemporary author but― Treeship, Monday, May 18, 2015 1:03 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Monday, May 18, 2015 1:03 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
i mean, we can start that if you want but let's not
― Treeship, Monday, 18 May 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Similar article last year by JS/Gawker on Bryan Singer, as in "here's what we've heard and the tipline is open."
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 18 May 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link