The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

If the people behind the scenes are mostly the same, all Noah has to do is give long deadpan looks to the camera after the (useful) montages of Republican journalists/politicians repeating the same talking points.

someone should start a news/comedy combination channel that's just conservative news with a little box in the corner featuring a left-leaning comedian staring forward, deadpan, 24 hours a day

It's too bad Portlandia is such a hit, because there's an obvious perfect choice for Daily Show host:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WX9uFpqma18/SM2kQPfcraI/AAAAAAAAAOY/F6Pbe6XNjsY/s1600-h/Picture+1.png

Sorry; image of "Nicholas Fehn, Political Comedian" from SNL failed to embed properly...

well, that character is based on Marc Maron, so I doubt Stewart would have gone for it

stewart was into jewish blowjob jokes too! http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-bibis-congress-reception-was-longest-blowjob-a-jewish-man-has-ever-received/

these jokes are fucking terrible, but they're also pretty old. they don't fill me with hope for his tenure as host on the other hand, the host isn't the writer.

the one thing team lib has on the koch borg is humor. why concede that, com.cen?

once aristophanes retired it was all over. see you in 3615

"my mother is half jewish" is such a weird defense, it's like half-Jewishness is only ever referenced in the context of having to apologise for making a dumb joke

i'm dying to know which half

he didn't literally mean she had a jewish parent, he meant she performed 50% of the oral sex acts his father would have preferred

which half do you hope Mordy

As grotesque as fox news is, they are not the root of any of the issues we face

― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship),

Actually, they are. Manufactured Consent. Chomsky. Get into it ya'll.

one of the roots, for sure. pretty sure there's going to be more than one root.

treeships have no roots

Trevor Noah was the talk of the Edinburgh Fringe two years ago, where the entire run of his show "The Racist" was sold out and had all these huge comics begging for tickets - he is a protege of Eddie Izzard, who mentored him, and that seemed to get him a bunch of interest from the start.

When I saw it at the start of the festival it was a very surreal experience. It was in the tiny upstairs Pleasance attic room, and when Noah came out, the crowd went INSANE. It was like seeing One Direction or whatever. People taking pictures, screaming stuff, etc. - it turned out the audience was like 85% South Africans, and he's massive there.

The show itself, weirdly, was like 75% "This American Life"-style autobiography about his unique upbringing, and then 25% horrible hacky stand-up. Like, he had a 15 minute bit on how he doesn't trust the female voice on his GPS system because women can't drive. There were other fat chick jokes, and multiple stupid American jokes. (Actually nobody's reprinted one of his other iffy Tweets in this thread I don't think, but he Tweeted one this year that said "when you fly over the USA there's lots of turbulence in the middle of the flight because of all the ignorance rising up from that part of the country" or something - not a great look for The Daily Show)

The rumor was that he was going to win the big Edinburgh prize, but then it turned out he was disqualified by a technicality (you can't have hit DVDs or have sold out arenas since the award is for newcomer types, and Noah had done all of that stuff - plus hosted shows, had millions of Twitter followers, etc.).

he's no patrice o'neal.

I hope you're exaggerating a few points there because that implies someone much less creative than Daniel Tosh.

xp

I do get the sense from his stand-up that he may just be taking the Daily Show gig to get more "lol dumb Americans" material for his future world comedy tours

it's pretty hard to be less creative than daniel tosh but this guy does seem like a fairly shitty comedian

(xp)

bring back kilborn

it's looking dumber and dumber that they passed over JW

or that they didn't snag up oliver before he left for HBO.

Except that she was really outspoken about not even wanting the job.

xp

And that Trevor Noah has experience hosting his own show in South Africa. I'm guessing the people who hired him has looked at that, and based their judgement of him on that more than on what he tweeted five years ago.

it is really mystifying that they let John Oliver jump ship to HBO after he was being groomed to take over the Daily Show. Maybe HBO had really deep pockets, or Stewart didn't let on that he was planning to leave the show so soon... would be interesting to find out what went down with that.

As grotesque as fox news is, they are not the root of any of the issues we face

― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship),

Actually, they are. Manufactured Consent. Chomsky. Get into it ya'll.

― Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In a way the Daily Show is cos it provides such a convenient scapegoat and sacrificing him each episode.

Uh, not sure if there is much evidence that this is directly a Trevor Noah defense besides timing:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/04/01/396782993/patton-oswalt-tweets-in-defense-of-comedy-and-trevor-noah

It just seems like a general extension of the points he made in that recent interview with Salon.

one of the final 2 tweets is "so welcome to comedy in 2015 trevor noah!"

That extended joke is about as funny as I think Patton Oswalt is. Which is not at all.

oh! oops i skimmed past that.

xpost

xp the general point he's making is (somewhat) reasonable, despite the way he's making it. but trevor noah is too lame a comedian and the things he said too legitimately offensive to deserve the defense

as for oswalt himself i greatly enjoy his standup most of the time, which rarely if ever contains the sort of stuff that he is defending other comedians for employing! idk why he bothers.

comedy sucks
comedians suck

Well, one of his tweets received similar attention in the past right?

wrong login lex xp

no this is just part of my new tough guy persona where i say everything sucks

this thread sucks
the internet sucks

xxp yea him & salon were engaged in a long-term blood feud that they recently appeared to sort of quash but im sure this will bring it back to life bc salon knows they are obligated to write the "it's problematic" piece, they have a #brand to preserve

(and to be fair, in this instance he might deserve it a bit bc idk why patton is bothering to defend a p obvious douche who isn't even funny!)

i think he's defending the rights of unfunny douches everywhere

Oswalt's acting exactly like the self-righteous screechy PC strawman he thinks he's satirizing.

I really don't get the sense that people need Patton Oswalt to explain the nature of comedy or that they want everything to be 100% safe and toothless... More like people are looking at Noah's tweets and saying "hmm, this guy made Jew jokes and fat chick jokes... and they're poorly constructed unfunny unsurprising uninteresting Jew jokes and fat chick jokes. Seems like he's punching down. Seems like this guy has bad instincts. Is this really the best guy to host the Daily show?"

OTM

Most of this really has to do with the fact that Noah is nearly completely unknown in America--the rightful owner of the Daily Show--and if someone dug up these tweets on, say, Al Madrigal's or Jason Jones' feed there might be a few articles about it, but it would largely shrugged off because we have familiarity with those guys. It seems like they're doing Noah a disservice by announcing his host job after barely giving him any airtime.

Trevor Noah ‏@Trevornoah
To reduce my views to a handful of jokes that didn’t land is not a true reflection of my character, nor my evolution as a comedian.
5:36 PM - 31 Mar 2015

Clayton Cargill ‏@claytoncargill 18h18 hours ago
@Trevornoah @AlexMiglio we misunderstood you like a fat girl misunderstands how horrible the Jews are.

xxp yea him & salon were engaged in a long-term blood feud

The super funny thing is that the person who WROTE the original Salon article that started it all is NEVER REFERENCED. After Salon published her piece and Oswalt hit back, it's just been treated by both parties like this massive institutional feud when actually the writer in question also said many nice things about Oswalt, and never literally said the thing her article is accused of saying.

She did a bit on this on her podcast recently!

It's a few jokes from over a five year period! I get why people are upset since several of them are over the line, but people who think they can judge his comedic ability from that deserves all the scorn they can get.

oh do they now

I feel perfectly justified in judging *anyone's* comedic ability if at any point in their career they went with, "Man, Jews sure are greedy and fat people sure are un-sexy!" They're a hack, plain and simple.