Bone Broth Mania

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You could just have a V8. I make noodle soup with V8 all of the time.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

the Indianapolis Colts getting in on the action, bone broth didn't help them beat the Pats though

http://i.imgur.com/R6zbJ51.jpgmo

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link

I'm guessing broth as described here is like stock except there's no carrot, celery, herbs or onion in the pot.

My next question: it seems to me that the broth people are just chucking bones into a pot of water and then boiling, but you don't get decent colour in your broth/consommé/stock without roasting the bones in the oven beforehand, right?

At this point I've been going to my nearest butcher (supplier to a few dozen great restaurants nearby) for years and they'll always throw in free bones or chicken carcasses with my order. These become beef stock for chilli or French onion soup, or chicken stock for matzoh ball soup.

camp event (suzy), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Absolutely, I roast my beef neckbones for ~4 hrs at 300 before they hit the water.

the magnetic pope has sparked (WilliamC), Monday, 19 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link

All the bone broth instructions I've read call for roasting bones and adding aromatics. Yeah, it's stock, nbd. Paleo takeaway is "get more collagen/gelatin", so some recipes advocate chicken feet and/or pork trotters and/or veal knuckles.

Jaq, Monday, 19 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link

No roasting required for Chinese pork rib soup

, Monday, 19 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

I had a Bloody Mary this weekend made w bone broth, it was fine

gbx, Monday, 19 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

next up: bone broth cupcakes.

american tail/american pie (how's life), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link

psyched for the bone broth cronut tbh

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 11:43 (nine years ago) link

I'm holding out for Bovporken (beef, pork, and chicken bone broth).

nickn, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

I bought a cup of broth from the chinese supermarket across from my apt for .50 yesterday

, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Billboard near my work today: Eat Adventurously With New Broth Bowls at Panera Bread!

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

I have a theory that "broth" has taken off with paleo types because of its rough, germanic sound, subconsciously associating it with tough primitives in people's minds (as opposed to "soup").

walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

I made stock for gumbo in a pressure cooker a few weeks ago and it was insane

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Billboard near my work today: Eat Adventurously With New Broth Bowls at Panera Bread!

― Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i saw this too

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

I have a theory

Seems like a basically sound theory to me. Although "stock" has similar rough Teutonic qualities, "broth" seems more archaic and evocative.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

mmm. it's kicky in the good way, not the mule way.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

M'm! M'm! Good... God this is... iced broth?!

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

I think 'bone' is the greater signifier at work. Bone stock or soup would work just as well.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

bone soup just sounds like soup with a kitchen mixup

j., Friday, 30 January 2015 02:01 (nine years ago) link

stoked that they're using bones in broth making now instead of old humidifiers

bollnality of weevil (brownie), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link

lol

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:12 (nine years ago) link

goddamn this is just a way to make soup more expensive. i went to buy marrowbones the other day – more expensive than fucking palladium or w/e.

the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link

atkins --> low carb --> gluten free --> paleo --> bone broth --> lab-grown mastadon meat so you can one-up your friends by controlling your food intake

the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link

A local ranch opened up a little storefront in FW - I got a three pound grass fed beef heart for $6 and a bag of bones (enough to fill a 6qt pressure cooker) for $13. I think I'll stick to the heart.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 30 January 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link

trendy in DC too

the chef has been brewing up bone-broth curatives since the Red Apron commissary opened in late 2012 behind Union Market.

"But I didn't know it was" a bone-broth curative, Anda says one afternoon at Red Apron's D Street NW store.

"He didn't know anybody would buy it in a coffee cup," interjects Megan Bailey, PR director for Neighborhood Restaurant Group, the parent of Red Apron.

Starting Monday at the D Street location, Red Apron will start hawking bone broths, in 8-ounce and 12-ounce servings ($4.25 and $5.50 respectively). Broths will be available in pork, beef and smoked chicken, and each can be flavored with your choice of aromatics.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2015/01/22/throw-us-a-frickin-bone-red-apron-jumps-on-the-broth-bandwagon/

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://i.imgur.com/VWvB0M9.jpg

, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Well done you hipster foodie fucks.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/paleo-diet-cookbook-for-babies-under-investigation-pete-evans/6309452

Bubba Yum Yum: The Paleo Way was due to hit stores on Friday, but publishers have “held back release” indefinitely after health officials intervened, the Australian Women’s Weekly reports. Their major concern was a recipe for DIY baby formula which “contains more than ten times the safe maximum daily intake of vitamin A for babies and inadequate levels of other nutrients.”

There are so many punchable things about this story I dont know where to start. This twat also advocates "activated almonds" as if thats an Actual Thing.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link

Dont feed your baby breast milk, theyre better off with this ton of salted meat juice soup!

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link

Wtf

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 March 2015 01:28 (nine years ago) link

pete evans is no better than that fake cancer woman who stole all that charity $$

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Monday, 16 March 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link

Oh lol Belle Gibson. That story's been a hilarious trainwreck to follow.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

tbf to hipsters, i never really felt like paleo was a hipster or even a "foodie" thing? ime it's been more a hyper-masculine fitness dork thing

marcos, Monday, 16 March 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link

btw that cookbook for babies thing is fucking grotesque

marcos, Monday, 16 March 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link

btw paleo is complete bullshit

marcos, Monday, 16 March 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link

tbf, I seriously doubt Paleo people are advocating bone broth instead of breast milk - the ones I've known/seen are very Le Leche League on that front. Would wager its suggested as a supplement to breast milk as an alternative to formula. Which you can take issue with you want, but it's different. Likewise, the liver - pretty sure they're talking about liver as one of the ingredients to the stock, not mashed up solid food for newborns. Bone broth wouldn't have solids in it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 March 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link

Yeah no they mean in the stock, my understanding was it was indeed meant to completely replace milk. I could be wrong on that angle.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 06:06 (nine years ago) link

btw that cookbook for babies thing is fucking grotesque

― marcos, Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:38 PM

To Serve Baby

nickn, Monday, 16 March 2015 06:45 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna make the NYT recipe this week because I have a new slow cooker and why not

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 16 March 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link

PSA: Pressure cookers make incredible broth in a fraction of the time it takes in a slow cooker

Thee Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

tbf, I seriously doubt Paleo people are advocating bone broth instead of breast milk - the ones I've known/seen are very Le Leche League on that front. Would wager its suggested as a supplement to breast milk as an alternative to formula. Which you can take issue with you want, but it's different. Likewise, the liver - pretty sure they're talking about liver as one of the ingredients to the stock, not mashed up solid food for newborns. Bone broth wouldn't have solids in it.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, March 16, 2015 4:15 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From the article:

"There appears to be recommendations not to use either breast milk or an approved infant formula, but to provide other foods to infants under six months of age and that really is a big health risk," Professor Yeatman said.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Also liver as an ingredient in the stock is a problem because of high levels of vitamin A, which are going to be present whether you mash it up in stock or feed it as a paste to babies.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Right, the characterization by a critic is 'breast milk replacement.' I strongly doubt that's the actual wording - and other articles on the recall point to it being a formula alternative. Formula alternative makes sense - Paleo people are gung ho about avoiding processed food so they want to DIY an alternative - there's no logically consistent reason for Paleo people to oppose breast milk.

Likewise, that article's emphasis is on "mashed-up liver" in the broth and its presence being unsuitable for 1-6 month olds, which leads me to think the critic in this case is misunderstanding or misrepresenting the situation.

Like I said, there are other reasons it's dumb and probably a terrible idea, but I'm not sure that one person's take is accurate.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

"Appears to be a recommendation" is the kind of wording you use when you've read a summary but not the actual work. If they're recommending bone broth instead of breast milk, it would be pretty obvious and easy to point out directly.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

the larger issue is that there's nothing wrong with formula & a lot of potential for problems w/fitness ppl homebrewing an alternative

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

As much as I find paleo diet enthusiasm to be just another bunch of fad diet bullshit, I agree that it seems inconsistent with opposing breast milk, which is pretty damn paleo afaikt. Even if it is not what paleo adherent as a whole might do, if it is what this dingaling who wrote the cookbook recommends, that's bad. And advocating a roll-your-own broth as a substitute for infant formula, which has been developed over years and is manufactured under very tight controls and to very specific standards, is a bad, bad idea. Like, beyond dumb. Also, again, liver in whatever form unsuitable for 1-6 month olds because of the vitamin A content.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

Like it is impossible for anyone in their home kitchen to replicate the necessary nutrients in commercially available infant formula to the same standards and at the same level of safety. It's the naturalistic fallacy at its most dangerous because it is endangering the lives of tiny people who are dependent on others for their survival. You have to be anti-vax level of delusional to think that whatever you can boil up in your pressure cooker is going to be better for your kid than infant formula.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link


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