"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

Loved the episode!
What I really like about this season so far is how the 815ers finally seem to know more about what the hell is going on than everyone else around them!
Still a bit unclear about why the O6 came back though (apart from Sun I guess)
The idea is that they went back to save those that were left behind: so when they get there and find that they are fine (if not better!) aren't they feeling a bit pissed?
Was the whole idea that Locke was wrong - he thought he needed to bring the O6 back to stop the time-jumping..but in fact, all he needed to do was push the donkey wheel back on it's axis?

I have to say I feel my lust for answers/knowledge utterly disintegrating. Not that I'm enjoying the show less, far from it, just there are too many questions and they'll answer many of them whatever the hell way they want.

Yeah I'm starting to feel a bit like that too - but it's actually quite nice just to sit back and enjoy watching.
Plus these new episodes have been full of loads of references to previous series and in-jokes so it feels fairly rewarding watching anyway.

yeah definitely, my watching is a lot more relaxed now, I guess it's got to a stage where they're comfortable just playing to the diehard fans.

didn't want this episode to end - so much fun to be had from characters pretending not to know each other.

i am hoping LaFleur will use a Star Wars nickname on Radzinski who will then retort "wait that movie didn't come out until a few weeks after you got here"

looooved the runway making sense after all. can't wait for the dharma drop explanation.

i wonder how much of the runway was built because somebody (ben?) knew that a plane was going to crash there carrying important people.

I'm wondering how Ben knew though, since the plane landing happens three years later in the future island time, and not the past. Maybe Jacob is the only one to flash forward to the future or -- and this might make even more sense -- he is from the future and the cabin appears at the location where he's currently flashing back in the past?

Jacob LaFleur, old man from 2025, jumps to the Dharma initiative to have his dad's buddy Horace build a cabin.

Frank and co-pilot hearing the Numbers over radio as the plane goes down-- picking up transmission from the past?

Shit, the runway! Remember Juliet joking it was 'for the aliens' - she couldn't have known the real reason right, but surely they questioned it srsly...

This show has really taken a turn for the awesome.

I had this batshit argument with a co-worker who insists that it's impossible for Ben to be alive on the island in both 1977 and in 2007, which ended with me shouting, "You were working in this office in 1982 and in 2009, weren't you? Did that rip the universe in half?"

Can you be sure it didn't?

*spooky music*

L O S T

I dunno about young Ben meeting Sayid tho. why would they let a child into the place where they've keeping a hostile prisoner?

damn hippies

Don't tell Lazlo how to raise his kid, okay.

" blame Rebecca Mader for changing Charlotte's birthdate from 1970 to 1979 onset"

i LOLd.

also, in case anyone missed it (tho i bet not many) looks like the rest of the series is about building the swan and 'the incident' that was mentioned in the film. ie about why you have to push the button! we're getting our magnetic concrete block explanation ROXOR

they're gonna have to move forward in time quite a lot to cover that. not that i expected them to spend the rest of the season in '77 and '08 (that's when Sun and co. are now right?) i guess.

we also need to know how daniel, desmond and locke fit into all this.

Ah I'd totally forgotten what station the Swan was and yes we're probably going to get an answer to the whole button pushing thing. I bet it turns out to be Faraday's fault.

I think Daniel is probably mad, not dead.

they're gonna have to move forward in time quite a lot to cover that. not that i expected them to spend the rest of the season in '77 and '08 (that's when Sun and co. are now right?) i guess.

why? they could have been pushing the button for years for all we know, not least since radzinski is mentioned by desmond and kelvin.

I assume Sun/Frank/Ben are in 2008 yeah.

I thought it was 2007.

why? they could have been pushing the button for years for all we know, not least since radzinski is mentioned by desmond and kelvin

yeah but how long is it going to take for them to build The Swan? assuming they start in 1977.

I did too, but three years from 2005 (when they were rescued) is 2008 so. . .

when is the purge supposed to have happened again?

The 80s, Juliet said.

They'll be way out of there by the purge, Ben hasn't spent all that energy getting back there just so his younger self can gas them. Well I assume not.

scribbles on the blast door map:

- Believed to have divested from project in 1985 following AH/MDG incident
- Caduceus station believe to have been abandoned due to AH/MDG incident of 1985
- Multiple escape conducts blocked after incident

Ben is still in the present anyway and has no reason to go back in time (yet).

no the purge took place in 1992 - ghost of Horace told Locke in 2004 that he had been dead for 12 years.

I did too, but three years from 2005 (when they were rescued) is 2008 so. . .

Ah. But 1977 is 30 years before 2007.

I would love to see a donkey capable of pushing that donkey wheel.

"I would love to see a donkey capable of pushing that donkey wheel."

photoshop hero, where are you??

When I end up not getting my thesis written by May, I hope my dept. is photoshop friendly.

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That donkey is lookin mighty lonesome for some horse-panionship...

I would love to see a donkey capable of pushing that donkey wheel.

Didn't really want a whole episode about how they could settle into Dharmas unsuspiciously - just get on with it - but actually I really enjoyed it. That Phil guy seemed suss though - "People don't call him James" - i.e. where'd you get that name from.

Do we know when the 816 plane crashees (including Sun & Lapidus) are meant to be? Also why does Frank look so weird now?

Baby Ben is great casting. Sayid's head must be well messed up trying to put into place that that's actually Ben.

That Phil guy seemed suss though - "People don't call him James" - i.e. where'd you get that name from.

loved this bit altho initially thought maybe cos the guy is so stiff/bythebook he probably called him james when he first met him

isn't Dharma more 'surname first' anyway? this in turn maybe explaining why the Others under ex-Dharma Ben always referred to 815ers by surname.

wow that is nerdy

Also why does Frank look so weird now?

Normal looking beard/mustache guy: guy you now have trouble maintaining eye contact with and can't really explain why

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dying here

as with the "what" one, should've included a random Vincent bark

Re-watched Enter 77 last night and was surprised to realize I'd forgotten that Sayid had been to The Flame before, with Kate, Mikhail, Locke, and Ms Klugh. Duh. The first shot of him coming across the cabin looked so much like the first shot we saw of Dharma!Jin finding Sayid in handcuffs, wandering around.. funny stuff.

In conclusion, the Nadia-cat is probably Sawyer.

ha I saw that one too. the height of "Locke is dumb" plotting

that episode still bugs me with its self-destruct button that only works by BEATING A COMPUTER AT CHESS.

Me too. "Oh no! The hostiles have taken over the station! I'd better sit here for 15 minutes and play chess!"

I *am* still holding out hope that Michail's "but you, John Locke, I have a passing memory of.. But I must be mistaken, the John Locke I knew was"---(is interrupted by Rousseau, no one ever asks him what he was about to say)" ends up being something relevant and not just a throwaway.

At the time, I remember thinking that he was about to say "in a wheelchair" -- but now it seems like it could be much more significant.

that episode still bugs me with its self-destruct button that only works by BEATING A COMPUTER AT CHESS.

Exactly the sort of lame shit that the Dharma Initiative would come up with surely?

great point re Mikhail knowing Locke. guessing Mikhail got to the island around the same time as Danielle (didn't he defect from Russian army during Afghanistan conflict?).