"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

in the preview for next week he says "now i know what im here to do"

I'm wondering if it has something to do with his wife's death - it's a pretty big reason why he's in the place he's in now, and he did mention her in the Bentham episode. We never did find out exactly why she was killed (Ben or Widmore did it?). Sayid's story arc started out trying to redeem himself for all the torture he conducted in Iraq (concurrent with uh, more torture on the island I guess). He was rewarded by escaping the island and finally hooking up with his wife... only to lose her and go on to murder people again. I think there's a lot of story and character potential to be mined there, there have been a lot of gaps in his story.

I wouldn't be too shocked if they killed him off as a result of these "bad" things, though. Disappointed, but not shocked.

loved the Sawyer scene...

I THINK, IN FACT I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW, EVER TRIED THINKING JACK....I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND IT'S USEFUL

Interesting stuff on the Official Podcast--

They blame Rebecca Mader for changing Charlotte's birthdate from 1970 to 1979 onset.

"He's Our You" refers to Sayyid meeting Dharma's torturer.

Sayid is so dying - he's the only one who hasn't had the rules of time travel explained to him = he'll try to kill Ben and get fucked.

It's either they kill Sayid or they kill Hurley or Sawyer for maximum weepy potential. But I like the idea that adult Ben has been manipulating Sayid all this time just to punish him for something that happened as a child.

I don't think the island is protecting Ben anymore.

Anyone else notice Kate asking Jack what they were supposed to do now, and new Man of Faith Jack Shepherd putting his hands on his hips and staring serenely out to sea and doing the full John Locke "I am waiting for a sign" pose?

Where did all those extra redshirts come from? I don't remember there being that many people on the plane? I liked Cesar being all "what do we do?" and Sun and Frank slipping off in a 'been there done that?' way.

I don't think the island is protecting Ben anymore.

Then why did it heal his arm?

Doesn't it heal up everybody's cancer or sperm count or whatever, separately from protecting whoever is determined to be "the one"?

Doesn't it heal up everybody's cancer or sperm count or whatever, separately from protecting whoever is determined to be "the one"?

Well, for awhile the island was actually giving Ben cancer.

Ben's been protecting himself more than anything else. I'm not sure how much the island has had to do with it.

Loved the episode, it seemed so straight forward in the Lost sense, which was a nice change.

Really dreading the loss of Faraday though, if he's really a goner :( And Sawyer - having been on the island three years now - really seems to get into the whole Dharma things. Sure, he helped Jack/Kate/Hurley, but the way he brushed off Jack was all "look, you don't even know when you are, I do, so stick with me or die". I wonder if Sawyer's sympathy will go out more to Dharma and his new 'family'-life then to the 815'ers at this point. Which would do my head in!

"take a load off, you want a beer?" was great too

Loved the episode!
What I really like about this season so far is how the 815ers finally seem to know more about what the hell is going on than everyone else around them!
Still a bit unclear about why the O6 came back though (apart from Sun I guess)
The idea is that they went back to save those that were left behind: so when they get there and find that they are fine (if not better!) aren't they feeling a bit pissed?
Was the whole idea that Locke was wrong - he thought he needed to bring the O6 back to stop the time-jumping..but in fact, all he needed to do was push the donkey wheel back on it's axis?

I have to say I feel my lust for answers/knowledge utterly disintegrating. Not that I'm enjoying the show less, far from it, just there are too many questions and they'll answer many of them whatever the hell way they want.

Yeah I'm starting to feel a bit like that too - but it's actually quite nice just to sit back and enjoy watching.
Plus these new episodes have been full of loads of references to previous series and in-jokes so it feels fairly rewarding watching anyway.

yeah definitely, my watching is a lot more relaxed now, I guess it's got to a stage where they're comfortable just playing to the diehard fans.

didn't want this episode to end - so much fun to be had from characters pretending not to know each other.

i am hoping LaFleur will use a Star Wars nickname on Radzinski who will then retort "wait that movie didn't come out until a few weeks after you got here"

looooved the runway making sense after all. can't wait for the dharma drop explanation.

i wonder how much of the runway was built because somebody (ben?) knew that a plane was going to crash there carrying important people.

I'm wondering how Ben knew though, since the plane landing happens three years later in the future island time, and not the past. Maybe Jacob is the only one to flash forward to the future or -- and this might make even more sense -- he is from the future and the cabin appears at the location where he's currently flashing back in the past?

Jacob LaFleur, old man from 2025, jumps to the Dharma initiative to have his dad's buddy Horace build a cabin.

Frank and co-pilot hearing the Numbers over radio as the plane goes down-- picking up transmission from the past?

Shit, the runway! Remember Juliet joking it was 'for the aliens' - she couldn't have known the real reason right, but surely they questioned it srsly...

This show has really taken a turn for the awesome.

I had this batshit argument with a co-worker who insists that it's impossible for Ben to be alive on the island in both 1977 and in 2007, which ended with me shouting, "You were working in this office in 1982 and in 2009, weren't you? Did that rip the universe in half?"

Can you be sure it didn't?

*spooky music*

L O S T

I dunno about young Ben meeting Sayid tho. why would they let a child into the place where they've keeping a hostile prisoner?

damn hippies

Don't tell Lazlo how to raise his kid, okay.

" blame Rebecca Mader for changing Charlotte's birthdate from 1970 to 1979 onset"

i LOLd.

also, in case anyone missed it (tho i bet not many) looks like the rest of the series is about building the swan and 'the incident' that was mentioned in the film. ie about why you have to push the button! we're getting our magnetic concrete block explanation ROXOR

they're gonna have to move forward in time quite a lot to cover that. not that i expected them to spend the rest of the season in '77 and '08 (that's when Sun and co. are now right?) i guess.

we also need to know how daniel, desmond and locke fit into all this.

Ah I'd totally forgotten what station the Swan was and yes we're probably going to get an answer to the whole button pushing thing. I bet it turns out to be Faraday's fault.

I think Daniel is probably mad, not dead.

they're gonna have to move forward in time quite a lot to cover that. not that i expected them to spend the rest of the season in '77 and '08 (that's when Sun and co. are now right?) i guess.

why? they could have been pushing the button for years for all we know, not least since radzinski is mentioned by desmond and kelvin.

I assume Sun/Frank/Ben are in 2008 yeah.

I thought it was 2007.

why? they could have been pushing the button for years for all we know, not least since radzinski is mentioned by desmond and kelvin

yeah but how long is it going to take for them to build The Swan? assuming they start in 1977.

I did too, but three years from 2005 (when they were rescued) is 2008 so. . .

when is the purge supposed to have happened again?

The 80s, Juliet said.

They'll be way out of there by the purge, Ben hasn't spent all that energy getting back there just so his younger self can gas them. Well I assume not.

scribbles on the blast door map:

- Believed to have divested from project in 1985 following AH/MDG incident
- Caduceus station believe to have been abandoned due to AH/MDG incident of 1985
- Multiple escape conducts blocked after incident

Ben is still in the present anyway and has no reason to go back in time (yet).

no the purge took place in 1992 - ghost of Horace told Locke in 2004 that he had been dead for 12 years.

I did too, but three years from 2005 (when they were rescued) is 2008 so. . .

Ah. But 1977 is 30 years before 2007.

I would love to see a donkey capable of pushing that donkey wheel.

"I would love to see a donkey capable of pushing that donkey wheel."

photoshop hero, where are you??

When I end up not getting my thesis written by May, I hope my dept. is photoshop friendly.

http://i41.tinypic.com/wwf41h.jpg

That donkey is lookin mighty lonesome for some horse-panionship...