the netherlands had a black national football team manager sixteen years ago whereas today a dutch manager being appointed by an english football team singlehandedly raised the proportion of black professional football managers in england to a healthy 3%
― disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
http://black-face.com/blackface-world.htm
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link
an 'anti-racist' project where people would be put in blackface to learn about how it feels to be black.
This is hilarious.
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link
"I was greeted with scorn and ugly looks wherever I went. Power to the People."
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
That's funny, I remember the controversy. We grew up in such a liberal, PC area that it was waaay bad to eat at Sambo's. I had to eat there once and was mortified, afraid my super liberal church would get wind of it, my civil rights cred tarnished. It was like a Denny's. then Denny's got reamed for discrimination. With the Aunt Jemima suit and all, maybe pancakes are hopelessly racist.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:57 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26bhdAEZf1qc5s5co1_250.gif
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
sry to interrupt i haven't read this thread in a month and that post was too much
if it was a quote-unquote politically correct area there would be no "Sambo's" it is true
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
"So we walk into Sambo's wearing our blackface makeup, and the manager wouldn't seat us! Not even at the counter!"
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
That is bullshit, but do keep up with the hostility. No one ever lived in a politically correct area. Do go on with your strange obsessions. It's the truth, your poor logic won't change it. You're transparent, and I'm not afraid of you. I've had real-life KKK members. Do try to be one tenth as scary.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
This thread has had many posts where I have to just sit back and blink for a few minutes like I'm not sure if we've collectedly decided to just ignore them or
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
baiting I M Losted is a bad look tho
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah i'm done
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
You're transparent, and I'm not afraid of you.
Did you just call me a ghost?
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
"politically correct"2014
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Black_Like_Me.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
And the movie version. (Seen the movie, never read the book.)
http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/6061/445058_020.jpg
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
^ yeah that's common knowledge right? i read about it several times in grade school (always laudatory)
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link
Popular in its day, and very well received. But James Whitmore passing as black was o_O to me even in the early 70s.
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
it provided a great cory matthews zinger
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link
I read the book. He supposedly took a bunch of tanning pills.
Which you'd think every white theater major would've tried by now.
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/819dgLLVR7L._SL1500_.jpg
?
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
honestly never occurred to me but i guess so
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Haha wow how has this never occurred to me
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
wait srsly that has never occurred to you guys, dang
― gbx, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
when i was a kid, I made my own othello board out of wood and painted bingo chips http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
ha holy shit
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
The name was selected as a reference to the Shakespearean play Othello, the Moor of Venice, referring to the conflict between the Moor Othello and Iago, and more controversially, to the unfolding drama between Othello, who is black, and Desdemona, who is white. The green color of the board is inspired by the image of the general Othello, valiantly leading his battle in a green field. It can also be likened to a jealousy competition (jealousy being the central theme in Shakespeare's play), since players engulf the pieces of the opponent, thereby turning them to their possession.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
source links to a time article behind a paywall
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
More on Zwarte Piet, 90 people were arrested in Gouda for protesting in a non-designated zone yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30069240
The Gouda authorities introduced other coloured Petes, including a Cheese Pete, this year
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Sunday, 16 November 2014 10:00 (nine years ago) link
Yup. Right wing media crying wolf saying a children's party has been ruined forever. Death threats to people who want to change the tradition. A former (social democrat) MP actually denied to shake my hand a couple of weeks back because I've published op-ed's about how we need to get rid of this blackface tradition.At the other end I had friends of mine arrested, simply for BEING there and being black. Black people were seen as suspect simply because of the color of their skin.
Meanwhile we have a PM, Cameron's best friend Rutte, saying 'Pete is black because he is black, it's a tradition, children's party' etc. What a fucking shambles. Take away our healthcare, let banks dupe you, it's all no problem. But you want to change a racist blackface tradition? Get out of this country! That's the tendency in this 'tolerant' backwards country. Death threats are through the roof. When football player Leroy Fer shared a photo on Instagram this weekend he gets dozens of comments calling him monkey, black pete etc. The attack on black Pete brings out the blatant racism that is virile in this fucking country.
These are our culture wars, but we *will* win. This racist blackface tradition WILL go.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
a MP knowing who you are seems like a pretty good humblebrag
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Monday, 17 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
Man.
fightin the good fight amory
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
We had a version of Othello on the BBC B Micro, only it was called Reversi. Loved the crap out of it and would play my dad for hours at it.
― you fuck one chud... (stevie), Monday, 17 November 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link
I first became aware of Othello when I was 5 or 6 years old and a commercial played regularly during afternoon cartoons. The commercial featured an old asian man who waved his hands over the tiles, causing them to flip from white to black. I begged my mom for the game, but she explained to me that the tiles did not actually do that. You had to flip them over yourself.
― holla back for a dope nakh (how's life), Monday, 17 November 2014 11:33 (nine years ago) link
moms are such killjoys
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Monday, 17 November 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
I was p pissed when I got Guess Who around the same age and the faces didn't pop out of the cards and talk to me like they did to the kids in the commercial.
― Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 17 November 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
ultimately my parents never did help me put it together
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 November 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
stevie otm
― example (crüt), Monday, 17 November 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
lol @ the throwing in of a mystical asian. some bewildering semiotic terrain this game.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
(and all to dress up go jr.: cultural approps!)
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
I've never played this game, but could it be more racial than racist?
I mean, what if you're the black team and you win all the time? What if you played it while listening to the White Album?
― pplains, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
"mystical asian" probably a nod to othello's provenance as poor man's go
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 November 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
i need to make my posts less gnomic
anyway there's nothing Racist abt the game itself i think, or no more than chess. (not sure when chess standardized white/black.) it's just the name that insists you try to read it as a metaphor about race relations, which is a mess: on the one hand the races are total/essential and at implacable war; on the other hand people apparently find it easy to switch their race; on the other other hand maybe the process represented by the flipping pieces is cleansing/repopulation. none of these thoughts would exist if not for the name.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
(so because the name invokes a torrent of signs it has no idea what to do with and is invoking cheaply and shallowly i am cool w being anti-it)
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
this is a no-brainer don't sweat it
― Fairly peng (wins), Monday, 17 November 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
not sure when chess standardized white/black
p recently I would say - they're red and white in Lewis Carroll for ex.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
none of these thoughts would exist if not for the name.
sry maybe it's foolish to say none of these thoughts would exist abt a game made on earth by white people featuring a war between white and black pieces. none of these thoughts would exist specifically about this game zall.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
oh look
this is p interesting actually
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
it is!
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link