I can't see the pic on that tweet and it's driving me nuts! can you explain what happened?
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link
Good prank, tho.
― Opus Gai (I M Losted), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link
This:
http://i.imgur.com/NAhi8Ka.png
After this: http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2014/10/black-teenager-pepper-sprayed-home-burglar%20
― pplains, Thursday, 9 October 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link
Omfg
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 9 October 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
The Nickelodeon thing means there's an open lane to write a proper book
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
white female friend changes facebook cover photo to
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10177454_10205001526063038_225353347860812822_n.jpg
― the late great, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
try again
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10177454_10205001526063038_225353347860812822_n.jpg?oh=62e39b721d30f3ac343839df162bf33a&oe=54B15C47&__gda__=1421903856_0dc096a028d3b9c931daf0996c54062b
question is not "is this racist" but what is best way to tell friend this is uncool
― the late great, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
re: the pepper spray incedent from up thread, see 7:45 in the following
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHpvPwq2i8
and to think 15 years ago this idea was thought so absurd as to be used as satire. dave was always two steps ahead of things
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
I dunno man, I don't think that's quite true - this shit had always been going on, it's just that social media now makes it much easier to get the word out
― 龜, Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
TLG - maybe she just really likes Oprah?
― 龜, Monday, 13 October 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
maybe
― the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/michael-essien-forced-respond-internet-4428143
i'm thinking yes
― Terrific ribbon, Moe (stevie), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
yr gonna have to explain this one to me
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
pvmic
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
re: the tupac shirt, at A3C this weekend I stood behind someone wearing this jersey (except black instead of red):
http://picture-cdn.wheretoget.it/gzk9ip-l-610x610-t-shirt-biggie-smalls-shirt-biggie-smalls-jersey-dope-illest-hip-hop-biggie-smalls.jpg
― example (crüt), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
ok so oprah heads all good i guess
― the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
what exactly is the racist part of that
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
oprah heads sound suspect to me idk
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
was bojack horseman racist
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
tbrr i don't think i would actually call that person out on the oprah thing, it just made me go hm
― the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
bojack horseman just kinda sucked, maybe it got racist after the first episode, no one will ever know
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
yeah I don't think the Oprah thing is per se racist. I mean at worst it strikes me as in the vein of campy Arnold from Diff'rent Strokes photos (i.e. it's "lol 80's media and hair" more than "lol black person"), at best maybe she just likes Oprah.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
idk strikes me as lol oprah
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
its just weird
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
bojack horseman sucked for sure, and its main character is way too similar to archer
there was a discussion here years ago about white ppl using pictures of black people in lolzy ways in twitter profile pics etc
probably itt but i have no idea what to ctrl-f for aside from j0rdan
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 13 October 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
Ah I remember that
Whiney called out a dude for using a picture of a 70s basketball player in a way that was like "lol afro" and then all the white people on ILM spent hundreds of posts trying to separate their uses of rapper profile pics from that
― 龜, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
still not sure if my T.O.P. profile picture was racist, though i felt validated when my mother mistook him for me
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
yeah it shouldn't be difficult to see why it's questionable enough to go in this thread, unless you're oh haha never mind
― grayson m'razz (wins), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Monday, October 13, 2014 6:02 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
looks like it was just you v whiney but idk i didn't keep reading. i dont think its weird to use a rapper as your avatar if you are a fan of rap music any more than it was to have a poster in your room of an artist or athlete as a kid (or a "print" as an adult, ha)—it's the LOL dynamic that makes it weird ... i dont really think this is angsty white guilt parsing per se. a person who only used white athletes in their avatar would prob seem a lil suspect too
rolling "Is This Racist?" thread
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
thanks for finding that, i had the hubris to try opening a 9400 posts here and then chrome took ten minutes to crash
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
everyone is racist
― ledriver, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
We get so bombarded with images of these media celebrities that they become part of our visual language. While it's probably worth interrogating how we use the images and why, it's not realistic to expect people not to use them. I mean these are media personalities, and they're full of camp and caricature. Maybe it's not cool for a suburban white kid to put Gucci Mane as his avatar or w/e, but if so, then why is it ok for him to drive around mouthing the lyrics in his car and mimicking the videos, or to listen to it at all for that matter? I get why there can be racism in this, I just think the average teenager gets sent a pretty confusing message about how he's supposed to digest it all.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link
so all this Cosbygifs shit is racist as hell
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
the reason white teenagers get mixed messages about their consumption of black culture is because there's no pure-of-heart, correct way for white teenagers to consume it.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
lorde
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
oh lorde
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
But srsly I feel like there has been a schizo relationship to black pop culture ever since there has been widely distributed black pop culture, and it seems like the channels of media distribution kind of want people to have that relationship to it, because that's what makes it feels subversive and dangerous and guilty. Sorry if this is the kind of shit that is already taken for granted on ILM/ILX, some of you guys are always two steps ahead of me.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Like clearly this stuff is intended for white consumption, but white people are supposed to feel a little teensy bit like maybe it isn't.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
Ohhh lorde please talk to this sucker cause they killin hip hop
― the late great, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
couldn't bring myself to type it :D
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
http://I.imgur.com/SiwVMtl.jpg
This obv doesn't beg the question if it is racist, for it so so obv is. It's getting that time of the year again where Sinterklaas and his blackfaced 'helpers' are on their way. In recent years the debate about this has heated up more and more. The more traction the anti-Black Pete movement is getting (even though prob 95% wants things to stay the same/doesn't care), the more grim the racist counter reactions are, bringing up the vilest racism I've ever seen. The Zwarte Piet discussion lays bare how racist this country really is, and still most people are blind to it. Reactions like "if you n-word don't like our tradition then fuck off to your own country" are common (even though most are born here, or in my case, born here and white btw and also against it). I won't go into the 'pro' camps 'arguments', as they are too depressingly stupid. But it comes down to: it's tradition, he's black because he came down a chimney (O RLY? Did he get those lips and earrings from going down a chimney as well?) etc.
The above image is from today. Not the 50s or 60s, no, from today. A right wing political party (who are in office!) in rotterdam hung black Pete dolls on lamp posts... Yes, that's right. They hung them, to make a case for 'black Pete is not going away and fuiud'. You can't make this stuff up. Mayors have said it's a case of the people to decide. And our idiot prime minister famously said 'I can't change BP's appearance, because black is what he is', embarrassingly referring to a black friend he has who doesn't have a problem with it (*weeps*).
Sorry for going on but I needed to vent. Never before have I felt so out of touch with nearly 95% of the people of this country. The 'debate' tears through family relations and friends. Yet still I'm optimistic. Every year more and more people are pleading for a reform of some sorts (make Pete of all colors, not just black etc). And I believe in ten years things WILL have changed for the better. But man, the whole white reaction when even suggesting to change things a little are so aggressive, so 'you can't take this from me! This is what defines us Dutch!'. It is so godawful depressing,
/end of rant
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
Amazing... Imgur removed the image. That's all you need to know really.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
http://I.imgur.com/h6JRH64.jpg
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
http://www.whitenessproject.org/
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
DEPRESSING. Especially the comments about slavery.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
The area of town where my wife works has all these Halloween decorations up around the various civic and arts institutions, giant wooden articulated cutouts that look like zombies and goblins and whatnot. But a great many of them look a lot like traditional blackface figures, much like Le Bateau Ivre's picture, that I can't believe someone didn't say "Hmmm, maybe we need different stuff." The first time I came down the street and saw one I did a double take.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
xpsIs it only me that's struggling to see exactly what the project has to do with 'whiteness'?
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link