read america
― Lamp, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
oops typo: October 2001 column.
that helps
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
Fuckin vintage
The weird Archie Goodwin bit was in an nyt ed
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link
Marvel Comics Archie Goodwin?
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link
No, that was also the name of Nero Wolfe's side kick who brooks wanted us to emulate in the post 9/11 universe
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link
I actually keep forgetting to check whether the marvel editor took that as a nom de plume after Rex stout
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link
for the most part they don't even go to martha's vineyard.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link
they wear infinity gauntlets
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
People in Red America tend to live on farms or in small towns or small cities far away from the coasts.
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT IS EVERY POSSIBLE TYPE OF HUMAN SETTLEMENT.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link
"Occasionally one even finds a village, or a mere hamlet."
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
Don't people in "red America" mostly live in suburbs? I mean almost no one fucking lives on farms in any color America, he's just trolling his DC neighbors so hard with that.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
some people say "undocumented workers from latin america," david brooks says "illegal aliens."
― Treeship, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
man everything is so much worse than i always forget that it wasn't.
― busted (art), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link
I just love the title.
http://gawker.com/david-brooks-son-is-a-gigantic-bro-1644052311
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
http://gawker.com/david-brooks-son-is-a-gigantic-brony-1644052311
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
That's kind of shitty and gross imo (to publish that, I mean).
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
the Podhoretz family is shitty and gross
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
dude's life is probably hard enough with such a sanctimonious moron as a father
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
It's too bad about what Gawker has done to our world then
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Privacy isn't the issue. Publishing a mocking article about someone who isn't in the public limelight and who hasn't done anything to deserve it is shitty and gross.
― jmm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις,
David Brooks' kid too.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
John Podhoretz, the son of former Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz, tweeted: “Everybody who thinks David Brooks has to ‘reveal’ his son, who’s 23, has joined the Israeli army can go fuck himself.”
yeah
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
and hurting / jmm right about this cheapshit article
And people who know me know I fucking hate David Brooks
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Gawker blows
― brimstead, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
It's definitely shitty and gross and I doubt anyone would be defending this if it was someone who wasn't the douchey son of a douchey columnist.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
fuck gawker
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
i don't think we know nearly enough about this kid to say he is "douchey" either. all i've gathered from that article is that he smiles a lot in photos.
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cool post
― example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
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this addendum is the worst part
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
like, they are actively soliciting material to use to smear this person, a private citizen, on a nationally popular website. how is this the same thing as facebook existing?
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
i think margaret sullivan made a legitimate point, but that's a long way from singling out someone who's not a public figure and writing an entire article (well, 'article') ridiculing him.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
Also a lot of the stuff is just about his personal/social life, it's not like they're pointing out some Super PAC he runs or something.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah, disclosing his relationship with the israeli army is totally different and unrelated from raiding his facebook profile for pictures and "likes" that encourage readers to make assumptions about what he is like as a person.
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
It fits with Gawker/Jezebel's bad habit of trying to show that someone is a Bad Person instead of focussing on one egregious incident. It leaves a bad taste. If you think/know someone's done something wrong then stick to that - don't do an armchair audit of their whole life.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
the gawker/jezebel tone is so toxic. it's weird to read an article i basically agree with (not this one) and still come away feeling gross.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
it's the plague of my generation
― Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
haha
― polyphonic, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
ok ned, i'll lift whatever info i can about you from the internet and write a high-profile piece for a major website mocking you. that's exactly the same thing as you having a facebook profile, right?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link
to be clear i will not actually do this to ned. i was just making a point.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 7:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Heart u Ned but come on, a private person putting stuff on Facebook doesn't make it ok for a big website or medium to use everything they can find to negatively profile someone just because his father is a douche. It's the stringing together of seemingly unrelated things to make up a profile fitting your idea of someone (or someone's father) that is the scariest thing about this.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
David Brooks' son being in the Israeli army seems relevant at least to the extent that he does at times write about Israel. The rest of it is just kind of catty and pointless.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link
FWIW, I've taken the responses on board and have been thinking off and on about it for the past half hour. The larger points about expectations of privacy/guilt-by-association are well taken. (Though frankly any guy from a fraternity who likes Tucker Max makes me a little skeeved separate from anything else; still, I'm not about to grill every last person who unironically likes the Chive or whatever.) And I'll admit the funniest part to me besides the headline, per Alfred's post, was Podhoretz fully embracing his bitter bastard persona at last; then again I did post the direct link so I can't not own that. Likely wouldn't post it now.
Still, though -- building off Milton Parker said, is it just the world that Gawker made or also something else? I keep thinking about news stories from all over the place essentially now regularly talking about photos on social media, posts, etc. when it comes to someone that figures in it, for whatever reason. I guess I'm more jaded than I realize but I honestly wasn't *surprised* that this could happen, and that may be my own burden to bear.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
I guess I'm just kind of disappointed to see articles that amount to "Hey look at this fuggin guy," let alone about non-public figures.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
But that said, look at this fuggin guy:http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2013/01/Podhoretz_Swim.jpg
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
First line in today's column: "George Eliot was an emotionally needy young woman."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
followed by an account of their prom date
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Yet what do we mean when we use the word meaning?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
oh boy he's going with Clinton-style epistemology
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link