TAKING SIDES: HUMMUS VS. GUACAMOLE

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Also, bad hummus is not as disgusting as bad guacamole.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

this thread is making me think i've never had real hummus

― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:19 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^is what i'm thinking tbh

i think hummus might take it for me anyway because guac is so transient (which maybe the romantic would argue is a virtue), whereas hummus can, eg, be put in a backpack and enjoyed with pita many days into the backcountry and there is not a single thing more joyful and satisfying than pita and hummus by a waterfall imo

gbx, Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

itt: hummus serving suggestions like "a waterfall", "a rustic moroccan farmhouse"

schlump, Sunday, 21 September 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link

kinda inspired by this thread i've really been enjoying this hummus recipe blog, it has some really neat ideas. i know everybody's expressed some hesitation about fusion hummuses but it seems like it sticks pretty closely to the core hummus concept, like tipsy said, just having some delicious hummus on its own as a meal maybe just with some bread & a comprehensive spread of vegetables on the side & maybe with cheese & pita by a waterfall.

schlump, Sunday, 21 September 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link

had amazing hummus in Israel, many times. still voting guacamole.

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link

losing hummus would not impact my life too much but losing guacamole = mexican food suddenly not as good anymore

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link

when I was vegetarian, I would regularly spread a thick layer of hummus on toasted bread for a meal.

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link

it's been six years since I've made hummus and I already have some sesame oil, so this thread has inspired me to do it tomorrow.

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 05:28 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-bGJoRb9A

benbbag, Sunday, 21 September 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link

This is my default hummus:

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/sainsburys-morrocan-topped-houmous-200g

But if I'm not lazy, I'll walk up to the Mediterranean Food Centre and get theira.

Aphex T (wins) (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 21 September 2014 08:37 (nine years ago) link

guess i've not really ever experienced the true transcendent alchemy of guac in itself, i like avocados and am always happy to eat them in whatever way comes to mind, guac seems a method as good as any. could be that the english still feel mildly contrived when taking things in a mexican direction

hummus is always a comfort tho. sometimes i reproach myself for not minding the supermarket wallpaper paste stuff but at least i know the difference i tell myself. it is perhaps underrated as a complement to meat? usually when lamb chops fall into my possession i will have them with hummus and a coriander/cumin type salsa verde and watercress on the side

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 September 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link

wouldn't go back to supermarket guac after making my own.
hummous is always good in any form but guac wins it

kinder, Sunday, 21 September 2014 10:56 (nine years ago) link

this is my own totopo to bear but growing up I think avocados were expensive so we didn't have guacamole at home, but I'd see it at parties and the like; and and it would sometimes have mayo: the devil's condiment in it. naturally when your soul is on the line you learn to be wary of all such green gloop, so it was only much later, when I was solvent and avocados weren't priced like gold that I could have pure guacamole, and appreciate its glory.

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 21 September 2014 11:46 (nine years ago) link

guacamole = cocaine, hummus = heroin. both addictive as hell.

zombie formalist (m coleman), Sunday, 21 September 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link

Lol I never had either hummus or guac til college and post college

First hummus experience was a guy in my building whose dad shipped him a homemade tub

Naturally he was from a rich Boston suburb

Looking back it was of the spreadable brick mortar kind

Can't remember my first guac experience tbh

, Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:00 (nine years ago) link

could be that the english still feel mildly contrived when taking things in a mexican direction

highly recommend getting over this

Branwell with anNe (wins), Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

yeah i doubt doubt the real shit is delicious, just seems like a faff to find/recreate... that thomasina miers bird isnt helping

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

*don't doubt

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

it would sometimes have mayo

This breaks my heart

brimstead, Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

this is a thing in sf taquerias. not mayo, but they dilute guac with crema (Mexican sour cream)
but somehow doesn't quite seem a fair battle.
perfect guac is nothing more than mashed ripe avos, fresh lime juice, ~tiny~ pinch garlic perhaps, some salt. and if you must a wee tiny bit fine chopped onion and/or tomato.
hummus on the other hand has a lot more going on which makes it so much easier to mess up or to just make adequately. canned or fresh chickpeas? canned are fine. fresh is always better but they need to be well cooked. are you gonna peel the skin from your chickpeas to help make it PERFECTLY smooth (or run it through a food mill?); aerate your tahini before adding other ingredients to be processed? little things can help work magic to this dip/spread

Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

XP today of all days

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

sour cream is fine

brimstead, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

let's not lose sight of the real enemy

brimstead, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

cilantro?

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

i've used cumin in guac before, not sure if that's abject savagery or not

brimstead, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Alton Brown has a recipe with cumin

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

hummus rules so much, guac is dull as hell

EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

For those wondering why they can't make restaurant quality, creamy hummus, its all about producing an emulsion of tahini & lemon juice in a good blender (not food processor) before adding the other ingredients.

This recipe has some good pointers.

Felt up by Adam Smith's invisible hand (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

(though I'd halve the lemon juice used by dilution)

Felt up by Adam Smith's invisible hand (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

sour cream is fine

it's a non-trad add-in to make guac go further (to save taquerias money. pennies when they make ~400% profit already from rice/beans/tortillas).why wld you want to dilute it?
multiple xxposts

Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

fuxc cumin in guac. cilantro's fine

Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

i wouldn't want to add sour cream, but at least the guac would still be edible. was objecting to equating mayo with sour cream as calmly as possible.

brimstead, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

tahini w/ lamb or beef is glorious. the full scope of guac possibilities remains unknown to me but I am v content in the reality of my hummus lifestyle

ogmor, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

My mom's standard homemade guacamole growing up was half mayo/half avocado with Lawry's seasoned salt stirred in.

when you call my name it's like a prickly pear (Crabbits), Sunday, 21 September 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

I ...am not nostalgic for it.

when you call my name it's like a prickly pear (Crabbits), Sunday, 21 September 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

woah

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

sounds like a southern pimento cheese type deal

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 September 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

sounds like I woulda called CPS

gbx, Sunday, 21 September 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

there are some restaurants that thin out their hummus with mayo. i can always tell (and i am firmly in the anti-mayo camp).

replacements gustafsson (get bent), Sunday, 21 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

yeah this is disgusting savagery

Branwell with anNe (wins), Sunday, 21 September 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

this is a thing in sf taquerias. not mayo, but they dilute guac with crema (Mexican sour cream)

i enjoy this kind of guacamole (they call it "american guacamole" around here) on occasion. in fact i think it because it's extra-creamy it might go better than "mexican guacamole" on some dishes, like rolled tacos.

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

My mom's standard homemade guacamole growing up was half mayo/half avocado with Lawry's seasoned salt stirred in.

― when you call my name it's like a prickly pear (Crabbits), Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dear god

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

My mom's standard homemade guacamole growing up was half mayo/half avocado with Lawry's seasoned salt stirred in.

― when you call my name it's like a prickly pear (Crabbits), Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

This almost feels like a Lutheran church recipe if I were not certain that the word avocado has never been featured in a Lutheran church recipe book

, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

blandness is underrated

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

not that i'm saying i prefer bland guacamole but that sometimes bland is more appropriate if it's a side player in the dish

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

This almost feels like a Lutheran church recipe if I were not certain that the word avocado has never been featured in a Lutheran church recipe book

― 龜, Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:26 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

T-bomb

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

If I'd have to do without one I wouldn't miss guacamole that much. I've also eaten some incredible and memorable hommus, not really so with guac. As mentioned hommus can be a whole meal with just some bread or an addition. Guac is a side or an additive.

poop will eat itself (S-), Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

blandness is underrated

i agree! american cuisine is becoming very flavor-forward, which is great, but subtlety is important too.

replacements gustafsson (get bent), Monday, 22 September 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link

it is delicious and counting as a meal, but it probably costs double what some good avocados and cheap totopos would run. then again, this will probably last a few meals. hummus storage is definitely superior to guacamole storage.

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 September 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link


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