the 'designed by' tag makes them all a little bit cringeworthy
― iatee, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Eh I don't mind that. OTOH I'm really not digging the "movie trailer for 300" look of the new dailymtg.com
― Vinnie, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah they were so dedicated to making a site that looks good on an ipad that they sacrificed a site that people actually go to
― iatee, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
where can i go to see the guest designed cards?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
This is where I always go for spoilers: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/spoilers/141-magic-2015
The guest-designed cards are mixed in but have the "Designed by" tag
― Vinnie, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
cool, ty
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link
Aggressive Mining looks pretty excellent
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 23 June 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
finally figured I'd try Vintage Masters - it's a ton of fun. don't go into the chatroom though, it's pretty much nonstop griping about how they're not pulling Power 9 cards. it's an excellent format...Goblins feel really pushed but there are some safety valves (the Buzzard that gives all creatures -1/-1 when it dies is nice). really wish they could print this in paper, would be tons of fun.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link
I feel like these draft-only formats get to be more wild than normal sets because they don't have to worry about constructed implications, can allow busted things, you get to open cool cards etc.
but they also seem like they have super streamlined fun archetypes, like vintage masters might be more fun than theros right now but I don't think it could hold its own for half a year of limited
― iatee, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah i very much agree with that - the 'real' set most similar to these formats in structure is probably ROE which was a 3-month format and does in fact wear itself thin with repeated play due to having heavily delineated archetypes
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link
VM does seem to allow for a lot of different archetypes - White Weenie, Goblins, Stompy, and Skies all seem possible, along with more syngery-based decks like Cycling, Madness, and Reanimation, plus there's a possibility of Storm (which would be a blast to play, but really could use something like Cloud of Faeries - that said, Brainstorms/Dark Ritual/Frantic Search seem to not get drafted often)
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link
cloud of faeries is in the set (?)
storm is definitely draftable but not that good unless you get it perfect
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link
cloud of faeries is in vma i do think that vma is even more narrow than mma was although iatee is right, neither of them have the depth of replayability of even triple theros, never mind a really good limited format. that said i've found vma a really interesting format to play even as its become kinda boring to draft. i also like how the more 'constructed' nature of these limited-only formats allows them to create a rock/paper/scissors style meta - like storm loses to goblins loses to g/w - and as one archetype becomes overdrafted you can start to look for that archetypes natural weakness. idk, i havent gotten bored of the format yet despite playing it p heavily
― dude (Lamp), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:01 (ten years ago) link
my bad about Cloud of Faeries - I never saw one in the drafts I did. I actually never looked at the spoiler. so Storm is stronger than I thought.
I tried to draft Storm a lot in power Cube, mainly because it's the most fun archetype to build (for me at least) and you can wheel a lot of the cards you really need. VM seems mostly the same, nobody's going to pick a Brain Freeze for example. Obviously you're not getting as many crazy artifacts as you would in Cube but you probably die a turn or two slower so I think it's worth trying. I agree that it's not a very good archetype but the cards are there...
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link
though Reanimation may be more fun and possibly a lot more doable. the mixed up rarities have really thrown me off though a lot of them are Rares -> Uncommon which is nice
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:06 (ten years ago) link
the key storm cards are uncommon which means that a good storm deck won't be in every draft. cube storm is also way wilder because it allows / requires a lot of weird interactions and a multicolor deck. vma storm is just a bad legacy high tide deck.
― iatee, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
i havent really found 'not gettting enough pieces' to be storms big problem - i think it just has a bad match-up against some of the better archetypes in vma
― dude (Lamp), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah I think the good Goblin or White Weenie decks can get out of hand very quickly if you don't have a way to keep them in check.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-2015-week-one-previews-2014-06-25
really liked these things in m13
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
nightfire giant is borderline limited bomb I think
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
Nissa is sweet. Very reminiscent of Koth's abilities, who I also liked a lot. Love the art too, it's an unusual style for a PW
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
I hope they spoil a jace that doesn't ruin drafts
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
crucible of fire reprint seems like an obvious plant for the next block, not that it's ever going to be a constructed card
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
also the card that the minecraft guy designed is super sweet
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
I really hope we get one or two more cheap Dragons in M15 to go along with Dragon Egg, Dragon Hatchling, and Mutavault so that people will foolishly try to make the deck work
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link
http://mythicspoiler.com/m15/cards/chiefengineer.jpg
this seems like a card with a bright future
― iatee, Saturday, 28 June 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
Agree! Though I don't think the people calling it an affinity card are quite right - I feel like its home is some bonkers Intruder Alarm / Beck-Call / Genesis Chamber thing?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 30 June 2014 12:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah it doesn't really bring you much when your curve tops out at 2
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 13:11 (ten years ago) link
i think the closest comparable is Grand Architect, a card that a lot of people (myself included) were real excited about but ended up just being a fringe player in standard
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 13:55 (ten years ago) link
they may work well together
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link
really happy to see chord of calling reprinted
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 30 June 2014 14:01 (ten years ago) link
I'm not really, it means more pod players
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah me too, that's probably the most fun and balanced card of its type for standard
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:06 (ten years ago) link
haha i feel like if you can afford the other pieces of birthing pod than you can probably stretch for $25 chord of callings
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 30 June 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
they were $35 apparently, crazy
i never thought to check in on them recently or i probably would have tried to trade mine away, i'm finally tired of pod after playing it for a year in standard and 2 years in modern
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link
idk I think a lot of people might open a few and then say 'okay I can be building/trading towards a modern deck now'
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link
though i'll probably still have to run pod at the GP unless i can throw together UR delver before then
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
Bleh, I picked up the last Chord I needed at the GP this weekend for $35. Feel like all the signs were there - no Modern Masters reprint, Convoke returning in M15 - I just didn't see them.
Liking new Garruk. I'm all in favor of expensive but super powerful Planeswalkers like Nicol-Bolas and Karn.
― Vinnie, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Actually I think my like boils down to +1: Destroy target planeswalker
― Vinnie, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link
cider what cards do you need for u/r?
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 30 June 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure i have the whole maindeck except for remands, and then i need some random sideboard stuff like threads of disloyalty or whatever people run. i'm 99% sure i can get everything from the people i'm going to the GP with though, its just a matter of whether i want to pull the trigger on playing that deck over pod, which i have way more experience with but is much more taxing to play in long events.
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
I feel like someone w/ a lot of pod experience would find it less taxing than delver, which I think is one of the hardest decks in modern
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
though secretly i just want to play zoo, maybe i can make this happen
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
i've been playing delver gifts lately and its been fairly good for me. i may be going to boston but even if im not some people i know are already committed to going so i can lend you some cards for the event if you need
if i had the cards and xp i would def play pod over it though
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 30 June 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link
thanks but i know plenty of folks here in boston who will lend me stuff, i think i'm good
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
yeah i figured. threads were actually pretty difficult for me to find
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 30 June 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
why is it so expensive?
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
like it spiked after the protour I remember, but it should have gone down by now
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
it was already on its way up before that pro tour
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
where is the demand coming from though? it's a one of sideboard card
― iatee, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link