The official bored-at-work cryptic crossword pass it on thread.

i've solved that one today if you need a clue. no lexicon required imo

those clues just lack a little elegance, that's all 8) and the more bits there are to them the harder it is to split the definition from the other bits. that's why i have trouble with those.

that said, i also had trouble with 14A which is blatantly obvious anagram for an everyday phrase but i just couldn't see it.

it's about 50% done now, but a lot of that is in pencil.

Had to help the folks with the guardian today, with references to x-men and rickrolling.

How do people feel about 'in' as a separator? I always feel that it's not quite okay, but some compilers use it a lot.

fine by me - definition (found) in wordplay. wordplay (found) in definition maybe a bit more awkward but still sound i think.

Grauniad, as per

Smarty-pants reports missing partition (4-3)

Abbreviations will be the death of me. As many times as I seen caught for C or dead for D, when I'm doing a new puzzle I don't recognize them at work. And there are always crazy new ones I've never seen: distinction = OM, maiden = M (HATE the cricket ones!)...

And here are two more I just had today: Edward can just be E? And "corps' soldiers" can be CRE?

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Chief-Royal-Engineer-%28Corps-of-Royal-Engineers,-British-Army%29-%28CRE%29.html

E for edward the same way E is for elizabeth on post boxes EIIR etc

Wow, never seen EIIR either!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillar_Box_War

Again, wow. It is a strange and beautiful world...

this week's Everyman (which seems easy based on the first half dozen clues i looked at)

How Alfie ends is unimaginitive (5)

Ha, I just got that one. Here's one I made up today:

Steed and partner never sag in galloping. (8)

Dammit I screwed that up:

Steed and partner never sag, galloping. (8)

Ah, OK. I was on the right line but then still struggled with the anagram, somehow.

Avengers!

today's Graun

Ketamine for breakfast? (7,1)

edgy

That is so fuckin lame

i gave up the crossword after that one, there were a few dodgy clues already but that was like "fuck you"

it's barely even cryptic

so two thumbs up for that clue then

Creator of Pluto — with money being spun! (6)

if this works how i think it's sloppy clueing imo

Idgi, is "being" being used for "person" ie proper name?

i think he's using Pluto for the clue and as part of the definition, which, yeah okay but not elegant imo

Head gets most important lead, showing cunning (8)

The answer was ARCHNESS, and I don't understand it at all.

Ness = promentary or headland innit?

Okay, thanks. And then I also wasn't getting arch being from Greek "arkhos" meaning "most important."

And is archness actually a synonym for cunning?

Seems a bit dicey to me, I guess archness is a kind of conversational cunning, if you squint at it in a certain way.

I wasn't necessarily thinking of the Greek for "arch", btw, more archbishop or arch-enemy.

archangel etc.

Yeah, I just wasn't getting any of those from "most important," and not having "ness' either I was lost.

that while grid was a bit rubbish if I'm remembering right

Yeah, since I'm relatively new to Guardian cryptics I've discovered the Monday setter, Rufus, is mostly easy-ish but some of his cluing is crap. Some of the tougher ones later in the week are incomprehensible to me, though...

sunday's observer everyman is just about my level and is quite consistent in its cluing.

Thanks, I'll check that out. Going on a 2-week road trip and I need plenty of puzzles for entertainment.

the everyman archives go back to 2003

http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/everyman/2965

i have the first 30 in various stages of completion in the desk at work

^^^ this was a great tip, thanks again. Pitched pretty much at my level of expertise, fairly easy, with the requisite sailor = AB and member = MP type stuff, and a few answers I had never heard of: London tube train stations, plants called Aarons Rod and Pheasants Eye, Scapa Flow...)

you'll find it too easy soon enough!

Some of them already are! Like, Emphasized editor is under pressure = stressed!

"Chillax" in today's grauniad, but also this gem: Carroll had on record this laugh's etymological origins (7)

jesus no wonder i hadn't got chillax

sounds like you need to... take a chill pill.

i got just over halfway thru at 3 this morning, still got about 8 to go

anyone had any success with the Guardian's Bank Holiday puzzle? I got some of the clues but am nowhere near being them able to slot them into the grid...

Managed to finish it with copious help from thesaurus, google, parents. I started putting words in the grid before I was absolutely certain the positions were correct. Have you got the theme?

no, any hints appreciated, that might give me a helping hand!

yeah, 9ac took a lot of getting but once i had it things cleared up a little, bottom half has some wicked words in it tho i suspect

the theme is (rot13) cynagf naq sybjref

and here are the more obscure themed answers my folks helped me with (also rot 13): puevfg cynag, rybqrn, znzzrr, nenyvn, arahcune (jngre yvyl), enzfba, hqb, dhvgpu tenff

xp, 9ac definition seems unfair or wrong, unless i'm misunderstanding. 13d a bit off as well, 8d a cheap trick, if fairly common. still got four to go.

i think 9ac works properly: the def is a little vague until you realise what it refers to but fine then i think?

still missing: 15, 21, 22, 25 across, 13, 16, 19 down, tho i think i know that last one, just can't parse the clue