DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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The letter is ridiculous. Why was it written in English? Is the Trojan Horse a likely cultural reference for an Islamic extremist? Why would anyone write the details of their secret plot down for anyone to read?

AlanSmithee, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

Is the original letter online anywhere?

cardamon, Monday, 9 June 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

Oh and:

David Blunkett, the former education secretary, said the government's excessive relaxation of oversight over schools had led to a vacuum that had allowed forces opposed to British liberal values to flourish in them.

Blunkett pointed to the removal of the national curriculum from academies and the lack of regional oversight of schools, leaving too much responsibility in the hands of the Department for Education.

He said there was a muddle in the heart of government about whether schools should be left alone in an atomised, fractured system.

Oh good so if we want to end the free-market sell-out of the schools we need to bring back Blair era extremism talk

cardamon, Monday, 9 June 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link

Or I suppose more accurately, 'The academies are bad because they're letting the Muslims take over'. But the logical response from someone who doesn't want the Muslims to take over is to vote Conservative

cardamon, Monday, 9 June 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

Or UKIP.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link

Wow the knives are really out for Theresa May right now aren't they?

Can't think of many things likely to lose you votes more quickly than ruining a load of people's holidays.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

She's seen as a threat to Cameron, i think. His tame hacks are circling.

It's kind of amazing that she has been HS for nearly five years, given how quickly the Labour ones got shunted.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

genuinely thought that was photoshopped before the horrible truth started to dawn

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

WHYYYYYYY

how is he still leader? ffs

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

xp I had to debate TM at a panel about 15 years ago and based on her performance there, it's a ceaseless wonder to me that she's in charge of ANYTHING.

Miliband has to start looking like someone who isn't going along with what his press officer might consider a 'great idea.' As to the free Sun, when I received that I had to wonder if they'd Peter Blaked all the phone-hacking victims for their cover.

show me new tweets (suzy), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

why does miliband try so hard to squander any respect he might have earned among all but the most shitheaded of the populace?

Every post you make is dripping with failure (stevie), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

listens to really terrible advice?

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

didn't realise that Miliband is actually on the cover as one of the 'English people who makes us proud to be English' (also Cameron and Clegg)

TV-show-is-font-colorredAsbofontlutely-fabulous.html (soref), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

The Sun: It's Not Just for Racists Any More

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Blimey if Clegg can still get on it then there's basically no lower limit to this thing.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

pwn-ed.

mark e, Thursday, 12 June 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/11/jk-rowling-donates-scotland-anti-independence-campaign

Her gift to Better Together was welcomed by Margaret Curran, Labour's shadow Scottish secretary, who said it was a "significant and welcome intervention from one of this country's most talented and successful women". "Separation is failing to win support among women and more and more of us are saying 'No thanks' to Alex Salmond's plan. It doesn't take a wizard to work out that Alex Salmond's case for breaking up the UK simply isn't a risk worth taking," she said.

TV-show-is-font-colorredAsbofontlutely-fabulous.html (soref), Thursday, 12 June 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

I love this kind of thing

TV-show-is-font-colorredAsbofontlutely-fabulous.html (soref), Thursday, 12 June 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

miliband's apologised already

just embarrassing levels of bumbling

lex pretend, Friday, 13 June 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link

even if Hillsborough didn't happen and the Sun wasn't such a horrible jingoistic piece of shit paper, look at the company he's keeping ffs

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75505000/jpg/_75505722_camsun.jpg

Maurice Malpas Holiday Jotter Blues (onimo), Friday, 13 June 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

maybe he's trying to send a subtle message through the fact that he's the only one of the 4 not actually reading it?

^ 諷刺 (ken c), Friday, 13 June 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

i don't know what kind of message is that

^ 諷刺 (ken c), Friday, 13 June 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Just found out about this passport thing. I sent mine in for renewal a few weeks ago! I guess all overseas applicants will get an extension? I already hate Theresa May tho'.

Kornblud (admrl), Friday, 13 June 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

well, only Michael White is relevant there. Talking about the main Westminster beat correspondents, him, Martin Kettle, Patrick Wintour. Yeah, they give those others space on the comments, but the slant of the paper's political news reporting is plainly anti-Miliband.

http://s15.postimg.org/tbhc3tpln/Guardian.jpg

Sterling work today.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Saturday, 21 June 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

ffs

kinder, Saturday, 21 June 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link

1. ffs
2. wtf
3. middle stage is quite Jim Hacker, no?
4. ffs wtf

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 21 June 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

middle stage is quite Jim Hacker, no?

THANK YOU, spent the last 2 hours trying to work out who that was reminding me of

soref, Saturday, 21 June 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link

Having dissonance here because the last two news broadcasts I've seen featured reporters doing vox pops where they're out asking people if they think Ed Miliband sucks, getting four out of five respondents who say 'he's all right, I like him' and then not even acknowledging that their sample is fine with dude before going back to the studio to talk about all this trouble he's in because he had problems eating a bacon sandwich at a photocall. FFS.

show me new tweets (suzy), Saturday, 21 June 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link

Blunkett... Hain... Straw... any more worthless cunts planning to throw in the towel any time soon? Roll up now!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link

(Actually I don't know if Straw is standing down... I heartily recommend it though)

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

We shouldn't overlook the very important detail that Ed M really does suck.

Maurice Malpas Holiday Jotter Blues (onimo), Saturday, 21 June 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

It's like when opposing football fans sing "you're shit and you know you are" and you hate them for it but mostly because it's true.

Maurice Malpas Holiday Jotter Blues (onimo), Saturday, 21 June 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

Seems extraordinary that Brooks could walk but there you go.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:54 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Seen that '10,600 dead after being declared fit for work by ATOS' pic doing the rounds. Looked for source, there is none, decided it was clearly made up/trolling but the thing keeps resurfacing and it turns out it is based on a badly written FOI response (according to Telegraph: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100279306/the-10600-people-died-within-six-weeks-of-being-declared-fit-to-work-by-atos-stat-is-simply-wrong/)

Clearly ATOS are appalling but this 10,600 figure doesn't really have anything to do with that. And clearly to see the real extent of ATOS shittiness you'd have to compare actual outcomes and numbers vs those that occur 'naturally' in the general population. But people seem to be resistant to this e.g. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/real-life/john-niven-how-can-cameron-3849719
"what number IS acceptable then?" http://twitter.com/NivenJ1

There's obviously a story here - but am I the only one who finds this attitude frustrating and simply contributing to the disinformation that allows orgs like ATOS to carry on being appalling? People just blindly accepting /retweeting without requesting their own FOI figures/looking for real data to get to the real story?

kinder, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

people blindly reposting terrible statistical bullshit is pathetic and unhelpful 97 percent of the time

most won't have the guts to repost this

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

Uhhh, can't begin to parse the stupidity required to believe '10,600 people died within six weeks of being declared fit to work by Atos'

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

I know, hence my assumption it was loltrolling
Even my brother who blindly posts stuff of this sort has been attacking the logic - I'm almost proud...

kinder, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

tbh this stuff washes over me, when i first saw the headline i thought it was about suicides or something, but my first thought was "lol bullshit stats"

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link

my general rule of thumb is if it's on the internet and there's no link to source data, it's probably made up. (Sorry, local petitions/campaigners who actually have a legit case to make, but come on).

so I tend to take no notice. It's more this second stage of writers being called on it and the response being 'well even one is too many' or 'it doesn't change the point of the piece' - the idea that demanding data to base your decisions on is in some way 'pedantic' (something I have often been accused of, usually by people who have been trying to manipulate me)

kinder, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

sure. if your argument doesn't rely on statistics then making some up diminishes rather than strengthens yr case.

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

people blindly reposting terrible statistical bullshit is pathetic and unhelpful 97 percent of the time

most won't have the guts to repost this

like

blap setter (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

It also feeds into the rightist myth that critics of the government are soft-headed and don't understand the severity of the situation we are in.

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

timing of this reshuffle is awful. much as I am glad to see Gove in particular get tae fuck, half of twitter now thinks Clarke, Gove and Hague are on the paedo list.

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:02 (nine years ago) link

First thing I thought when I heard that Hague was resigning (and stepping down as an MP also) was, right there's some revelation about to come out, else they're worried it's coming out... but that's the times we live in!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:08 (nine years ago) link

Anyone know much about Nicky Morgan? She's replacing Gove.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BskoAzeCEAAncWr.png

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link


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