i dont really care for action really and that action wasnt too good imo, it was pretty stilted and like too linear, the show and shows in general have a hard time being cinematic when they need to, maybe not a big enough budget
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link
the giant is lifting the door... he is still lifting the door
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link
looking forward to whatever madness they have ready for the finale tho
yeah this was not exactly Kurosawa, I got a little bored but the wall scythe thing was lol and oh surprise surprise Ygritte's dead
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
rip ygritte u never shldve fd w that feeb jon sno
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
Gonna miss Rose Leslie
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 9 June 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link
From a fight choreo POV, I actually dug the Jon vs. the (heh heh) Head Thenn fight -- did not get a sense of HUEG that dude was till then -- way more than Mtn Vs. Viper. I dunno if the Mtn's sword was too heavy for the Halfthor or if he was too uncoordinated to swing it convincingly, but it was a very bumbling fight. Big Thenn Whoever though was swinging that axe like a born MF, it was a lot more dynamic and convincing, plus it had the benefit of not having a disgusting climax.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah, Yuri Kolokolnikov is gargantuan.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
yeah agree the mountain didn't seem as menacing as Head Thenn. tho I supposed part of the point was for Oberyn to own him a bit before it got to his head.
― ryan, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
the mountain wasnt actually that cool hes just a piece of shit bully
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Hah. GOT is the only tv show where someone gets a hammer through the skull and it's not a disgusting climax at all.
― Dreamland, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Did anyone else yell out HAMMERTIME, BITCH
― kinder, Monday, 9 June 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
Wall scythe was the best bit too
― kinder, Monday, 9 June 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
The whole thing could have been easily confused for a Metalocalypse episode
― Evan, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah there was something v videogamey about it that made me care less
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
scythe is a major reason. I think it would have been cooler looking if that scythe was all rusted out for being in that wall all this time (presumably unused).
― Evan, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
I had fun with the episode. Nothing particularly bothered me about it honestly.
― Evan, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
climbing up the wall seems like a bad plan, especially at the exact point where all the crows are, especially after declaring ur gonna do it by lighting a big fire
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
also not coordinating w the giants attempting to open the gate
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link
not so sure abt this mance guys leadership ability
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link
how cool a name is mance rayder though
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 9 June 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link
when they voted for king beyond the wall I'm sure it sealed his victory.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 9 June 2014 21:12 (ten years ago) link
yeah thats prob why hes in charge
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
no wonder u wildlings cant even build a house
They even have a Maester Morbius complaining bitterly about his policies.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 9 June 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
The wall scythe was really cool. My biggest complaint is there wasn't nearly enough dog-killing-humans action. A further quibble is that they seemed weirdly slow to set the giants and mammoths on fire.
Happy to see more of Gilly (two seasons ago when I was less a fan of the show, I was considering only watching to see more Hannah Murray, I love her). Hope Sam gets lucky with her.
Does that leader of the night's watch guy remind any of you of Father Jack from Father Ted?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Also, why didn't Jon take his wolf with him to see Mance?
― schwantz, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
ahahaha yes
― kinder, Monday, 9 June 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link
feck off, elephant!
I think jon left the wolf in charge
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 9 June 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link
The mammoth was pretty fucking cool.
― Matt DC, Monday, 9 June 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link
i think the giants were CGI
― Karl Malone, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
The actor is real, just doubled in size
― polyphonic, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
he was too strong for cgi imo u cant get cgi that strong i mean thats 4 inches of cold rolled steel forget about it
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
if they had a bigger budget they could have shown the mammoth smashing through the wildling lines
did the attacks in the book come at night or is that mostly a way to save cgi moneys?
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 9 June 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
I was wondering about what was cgi because everything looked much better than their usual cgi creations. Pretty sure the giants were guys in big suits.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
A lot of good info about how things were shot here
http://www.vulture.com/2014/06/neil-marshall-game-of-thrones-director-wall-battle.html
― polyphonic, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
couldn't stop laughing at the little nod the kid gave Jon Snow after he iced Ygritte
― Number None, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
perfectly timed here imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 9 June 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link
YES
― Number None, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
iirc everything equiv to the books from last episode took place at night, yes. martin's probably at his worst when writing battles/action (a lot of this kinda stuff in the books is just downright confusing to read, for me at least) so i probably tuned out a fair bit of it.
blackwater bay stuff took place during the day though and they shifted that to night in the show explicitly to save cash.
― Clay, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link
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Yeah I was thinking this too. Wouldn't a whole army helping open that gate have sped things up? And yeah going up the wall, which probably would take hours, is kind of pointless when the dudes at the top could just shove your forehead and send you all the way to the bottom. Or say you actually DID hoist yourself up over the edge... you're gonna fight people now?
Apparently in the books the raid via the south was a separate battle with the intention that they'd just open the gate for the wildling army from the inside. TV adaptation has them climbing a gigantic wall in the one place they're defending it.
― Evan, Monday, 9 June 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
May be too big.
http://37.media.tumblr.com/4a1b19a87353344d8c2ed940a2762ebb/tumblr_n6vveaVZrP1sys9eso7_1280.jpg
― nickn, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:30 (ten years ago) link
Open in new tab to see full size.
― nickn, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:31 (ten years ago) link
First episode of this season I've enjoyed. Too often it seems like a series of vaguely connected scenes with no forward trajectory. Odd, then, that it took a big dumb battle scene for me to actually feel like I'm invested in any of it.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:33 (ten years ago) link
from a tactical perspective, forcing the watch to spread their forces (defending against the climbers plus those assaulting the gates etc.) makes sense. plus as they said in the show this was a test of the castle's defenses so the wall assault could have fit with that idea.
realistically it was just a vehicle for that anchor thing to smash up the ice
― building a desert (art), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link
Totally fun episode. But still seems like 100,000 wildings with mammoths and giants and cannibal freaks should have been able to at least off Sam Tarly and the elevator operator kid.
― brio, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:16 (ten years ago) link
i kept thinking about how fucked they'd be at the top if only someone thought to disable the elevator
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:28 (ten years ago) link
ya - taking the steps would be annoying for sure.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:42 (ten years ago) link
And how does that elevator work? Does the kid have to turn a crank to raise it?
― nickn, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 06:50 (ten years ago) link