2008 Primaries Thread

So maybe 38.9999999% of Republicans call themselves Moderates and there's Just This One Guy who calls himself a liberal?

or the pollsters didnt actually phrase the question in those terms?

Here's the poll that's being referred to...
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/blogphotos/Blog_Florida_Republican_Exit_Poll_Party_2008.gif

well then ok not sure what to say abt that 11%

oh wait ok all of those can be accounted for by democrats and independents that voted on the gop side this time

? You'll have to explain further.

the democratic contest yeilded no delegates -- disenfranchised moderates who would have otherwise voted on the dem side maybe wanted to effect the republican contest?

i could be wrong but i think you have to declare to vote in fla so i dont think those were actual dems

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/obama-1.jpg

^^^ OBEY OBAMA. fuckin' rad. large image.

interesting about edwards - i thought he'd really stick around until feb. 5. yea, he fucking better endorse obama, but i don't know if he will. i'll be really curious to see where his supporters flock to - as others mentioned upthread it's kind of difficult to determine who benefited more from him sticking around.

i know it probably didn't mean much, but that "private meeting" edwards had with clinton a week or two ago kind of frightens me now. cabinet position offered then? though i wouldn't be surprised he just waits and endorses the clear frontrunner later, whoever it ends up being.

? You'll have to explain further.

look a the top part of the poll 20% of the voters in the republican primary consider themselves independents or democrats - they just registered as republicans for whatever reasons.

for the 3% that are democrats is likely because the florida democratic primary didnt count this year due to beef abt the primary date w/the national democratic party.

most of the independents are probably pretty much republicans in their views - but some just have ideologies that dont particularly conform to party doctrine: like libertarians who are anti-immigration and pro-drug legalization or anti-war anti-abortion christians etc.

ftr no registered independents can vote in a fla primary

i'm not sure of the regulations regarding financial support of a shuttered campaign for another candidate, so what about edwards' war chest? not that he has a surplus of cash, but every little bit counts.

also, edwards' endorsement will be a huge media story and therefore a boon to whomever receives it.

Edwards has no "war chest" – it's an armoire.

"war hutch"

"war vanity"

what with all his emollients and unguents and prettifyng cremes and such

"war drawer"

it has some screwdrivers, matches, and old coupons in there

http://voteforbreakfast.com/images/sexy_edwards.jpg

jhoshea otm

most of the independents are probably pretty much republicans in their views - but some just have ideologies that dont particularly conform to party doctrine

HI DERE

Really charming portrait of exurban Tennesseans sitting around grousing about the candidates in the NY Times today. "Anybody but Obama-Osama," one chortles to the delight of all. God, why we didn't let the Confederacy go, I have no idea.

80 gitmo attorneys endorse Barack - http://www.miamiherald.com/campaign08/story/397317.html

80 gitmo attorneys endorse vs. 30 helens agree

http://www.t-bone.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/thirty_helens2_400px.gif

Ralph Nader launched a website for the Ralph Nader Presidential Exploratory Committee this morning.

"Testing the waters," emails Nader spokesman Jason Kafoury.

http://www.naderexplore08.org/

FUUUUUUCK YOOUUUUUUUUUUU

Ralph Nader is older than John McCain

http://thepage.time.com/excerpts-from-obamas-speech-wednesday-in-denver-colorado/

How many candidates would you like to limit each office on the ballot to, elmo? in this land of the bought and paid for?

I wouldn't count on Nader getting more than 0.3% of a national vote, anyway; the autocratic Dem bullies kept him off all but a handful of states' ballots last time.

God, why we didn't let the Confederacy go, I have no idea.

Morbs: Objectively Pro-Slavery

i think he's a sanctimonious uncharismatic loser of a candidate who is ruining his long, storied career of good work and public service by muddying electoral waters with his high horse yet again. not to mention he'd make an awful president.

you sound just like Eric Alterman! you might wanna have that looked at.

it's nice that a presumed democracy is ruled with the iron fist of two corporate parties tho. Better horseshit than high horses, right?

Nader/Paul Revolution!

morbs are u ;_; abt edwards? s'ok commere s'ok *hugs*

the horseshit just falls from a greater height, morbs.

i'd vote for nader just because i hated the backlash against him the last election

braindamages

Does McCain have enough hair to be president? You have to go back a long, long way before you find a pretty bald guy who got elected.

yeah, all the way to gerry ford

yeah thats about the level of discourse i expect from you gabbneb

oh, got elected, rite

any time, sub-NS dude

I had no illusions with Edwards; he just had the best script of the remaining three. I will vote unenthusiastically for Obama on Tuesday, expecting nothing.

Perrin:

What if it's McCain vs. Hillary in November? Oh man, that would be a blast to witness. Two nearly identical choices for imperial manager, the one slight difference being that McCain says he's opposed to torture, while Hillary must wait to check wind velocity and direction. I can see the liberals twisting themselves into numerous knots trying to justify a Hillary vote over McCain, assuring each other that it's the right thing to do, and of course reaching back to Bill's criminal years for inspiration. You mules better hope that Saint Obama gets the nod instead. At least with him, the fantasy is easier to pull off. Change! Hope! Stardust! Ponies! If I ruled the world . . .

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2008/01/pre-soaking-your-sane.html

sub ns?

i can virtually guarantee that most noizers will NOT like what we play

What, you do melody?

-- Dr Morbius, Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:36 AM (Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:36 AM) Bookmark Link

go back to norway, morbs! it's the land of purity!

Obama on Edwards' exit:

“John Edwards has spent a lifetime fighting to give voice to the voiceless and hope to the struggling, even when it wasn’t popular to do or covered in the news. At a time when our politics is too focused on who’s up and who’s down, he made a nation focus again on who matters – the New Orleans child without a home, the West Virginia miner without a job, the families who live in that other America that is not seen or heard or talked about by our leaders in Washington.

"John and Elizabeth Edwards have always believed deeply that we can change this – that two Americans can become one, and that our country can rally around this common purpose. So while his campaign may end today, the cause of their lives endures for all of us who still believe that we can achieve that dream of one America.

there goes our chances for ending poverty

there they goes, indeed