2008 Primaries Thread

when will Mike Gravel throw in the towel, that's what I want to know

U MEAN THROW IN THE ROCK LOLOLOLOLOLOL

... though I have complete faith that John Edwards will go on to do great things, of possible Al Gore proportions.

I’ve heard Mr. Edwards speak on a number of occasions and he was always genuine. It embarrasses me that the liberal wing of the Democratic party flocked to the center to support either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama and left him in the dust.

Democrat John Edwards is exiting the presidential race Wednesday, ending a scrappy underdog bid in which he steered his rivals toward progressive ideals while grappling with family hardship that roused voter's sympathies but never diverted his campaign, The Associated Press has learned.

The two-time White House candidate notified a close circle of senior advisers that he planned to make the announcement at a 1 p.m. EST event in New Orleans that had been billed as a speech on poverty, according to two of his advisers. The decision came after Edwards lost the four states to hold nominating contests so far to rivals who stole the spotlight from the beginning — Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

Source: AP News

will edwards endorse obama?

he fucking better

Ugh. That’s all people care about in this thread. Politics is fine if it has meaning at the end of the day but without that we’re all better off following football instead. Go team! Rah! Rah! Rah!

maybe someone made him a deal?????

can someone plz ban mr goodman from this thread weve god all the morbses we can handle thx

for real

I’ve heard Mr. Edwards speak on a number of occasions and he was always genuine.

You measured him on the Genuine-O-Meter?

From Daniel, Esq.'s link upthread...

The key was that McCain nearly doubled Romney among the 39% of Republicans who called themselvs moderates or liberals

A Britishe Writes: what do liberal Republicans stand for? And this McCain is one?

i have never in my life heard anyone describe themselves as a liberal republican

the word liberal to republicans is up there w/child-molester terrorist etc

the only 'liberal' republicans i can think of are...luger? maybe arlen specter? and these guys are 'moderates'. i don't know who would describe themselves as a liberal republican.

So maybe 38.9999999% of Republicans call themselves Moderates and there's Just This One Guy who calls himself a liberal?

or the pollsters didnt actually phrase the question in those terms?

Here's the poll that's being referred to...
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/blogphotos/Blog_Florida_Republican_Exit_Poll_Party_2008.gif

well then ok not sure what to say abt that 11%

oh wait ok all of those can be accounted for by democrats and independents that voted on the gop side this time

? You'll have to explain further.

the democratic contest yeilded no delegates -- disenfranchised moderates who would have otherwise voted on the dem side maybe wanted to effect the republican contest?

i could be wrong but i think you have to declare to vote in fla so i dont think those were actual dems

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/obama-1.jpg

^^^ OBEY OBAMA. fuckin' rad. large image.

interesting about edwards - i thought he'd really stick around until feb. 5. yea, he fucking better endorse obama, but i don't know if he will. i'll be really curious to see where his supporters flock to - as others mentioned upthread it's kind of difficult to determine who benefited more from him sticking around.

i know it probably didn't mean much, but that "private meeting" edwards had with clinton a week or two ago kind of frightens me now. cabinet position offered then? though i wouldn't be surprised he just waits and endorses the clear frontrunner later, whoever it ends up being.

? You'll have to explain further.

look a the top part of the poll 20% of the voters in the republican primary consider themselves independents or democrats - they just registered as republicans for whatever reasons.

for the 3% that are democrats is likely because the florida democratic primary didnt count this year due to beef abt the primary date w/the national democratic party.

most of the independents are probably pretty much republicans in their views - but some just have ideologies that dont particularly conform to party doctrine: like libertarians who are anti-immigration and pro-drug legalization or anti-war anti-abortion christians etc.

ftr no registered independents can vote in a fla primary

i'm not sure of the regulations regarding financial support of a shuttered campaign for another candidate, so what about edwards' war chest? not that he has a surplus of cash, but every little bit counts.

also, edwards' endorsement will be a huge media story and therefore a boon to whomever receives it.

Edwards has no "war chest" – it's an armoire.

"war hutch"

"war vanity"

what with all his emollients and unguents and prettifyng cremes and such

"war drawer"

it has some screwdrivers, matches, and old coupons in there

http://voteforbreakfast.com/images/sexy_edwards.jpg

jhoshea otm

most of the independents are probably pretty much republicans in their views - but some just have ideologies that dont particularly conform to party doctrine

HI DERE

Really charming portrait of exurban Tennesseans sitting around grousing about the candidates in the NY Times today. "Anybody but Obama-Osama," one chortles to the delight of all. God, why we didn't let the Confederacy go, I have no idea.

80 gitmo attorneys endorse Barack - http://www.miamiherald.com/campaign08/story/397317.html

80 gitmo attorneys endorse vs. 30 helens agree

http://www.t-bone.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/thirty_helens2_400px.gif

Ralph Nader launched a website for the Ralph Nader Presidential Exploratory Committee this morning.

"Testing the waters," emails Nader spokesman Jason Kafoury.

http://www.naderexplore08.org/

FUUUUUUCK YOOUUUUUUUUUUU

Ralph Nader is older than John McCain

http://thepage.time.com/excerpts-from-obamas-speech-wednesday-in-denver-colorado/

How many candidates would you like to limit each office on the ballot to, elmo? in this land of the bought and paid for?

I wouldn't count on Nader getting more than 0.3% of a national vote, anyway; the autocratic Dem bullies kept him off all but a handful of states' ballots last time.

God, why we didn't let the Confederacy go, I have no idea.

Morbs: Objectively Pro-Slavery

i think he's a sanctimonious uncharismatic loser of a candidate who is ruining his long, storied career of good work and public service by muddying electoral waters with his high horse yet again. not to mention he'd make an awful president.

you sound just like Eric Alterman! you might wanna have that looked at.

it's nice that a presumed democracy is ruled with the iron fist of two corporate parties tho. Better horseshit than high horses, right?

Nader/Paul Revolution!

morbs are u ;_; abt edwards? s'ok commere s'ok *hugs*

the horseshit just falls from a greater height, morbs.