"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

I want the kid to be Desmond! Jacob would be nice too though. Or Karl?

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Better now, though still annoying sometimes ? too cool a show for me, Dollhouse rip signing out

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Desmond is the only major character that baby could realistically be, but I really doubt it. At first I thought Sawyer for a bit but he would have had early-onset nosebleeds like Charlotte.

But actually, I don't think the identity of the baby is particularly significant, and it's just to show that whatever incident caused the infertility problem occurred after 1977.

^^^^

babby = Frogurt

I think it's Charlie.

I'm guessing this is going to lead back to Ben, since this is Lost, and everyone is motivated somehow by huge guilt, he caused the infertility problem and that's why he's so desperate to fix it around 2001-ish.

Wasn't too satisfied with the brush-off about tampering with past (1974) events - Daniel's "whatever happened, happened" doesn't cut it for me. Would someone else have shot the two hostile guys if they weren't there? Or was this just implying that whatever the Losties did doesn't matter because whatever it was is the thing that will have happened?

I would be quite impressed if the baby was just a baby. However, I'm imagining that the circumstances of his birth (wouldn't have happened if Losties hadn't turned up?? Whole existence depends on Sawyer etc remaining on island?) will mean it's someone who's invested in Sawyer et al.

"Or was this just implying that whatever the Losties did doesn't matter because whatever it was is the thing that will have happened?"

Correct.

i think ben's dad is the third from the right in the 'namaste' new recruits' pic.

I don't think when Dan says "whatever happens happened" he means "someone would have come along & shot those two Others" but "Sawyer & Juliet shot those two Others is 1974 because that's what happened."

And for some reason everyone thinks that baby is Ethan which would be lame.

Yeah, except for Desmond for some reason they're doing with a hard, 12 Monkeys theory of time on this show, basically it DOES matter, because they did shot those guys in 1974, nobody else ever did, it was always them. So of course, we will have to get that eventual scene of crazy Daniel screaming at kid Charlotte not to come back to the island, knowing it is tragic and futile.

and I think that's what he was muttering about in that one scene ("I'm not gonna tell her, I'm not gonna tell her") but of course he won't be able to help himself

Desmond being the baby would be so stupid. "We need him to be safe...let's send him to my crazy distant Scottish relatives..."

The Lost fans at work are having so much trouble keeping up with the time travel stuff--which is really not that f'n complex after all. It's not even at a standard Science Fiction novel level of complexity really. They keep saying, "I liked the show better when it was more about the characters." And I say, "Really, you think it was better when it was about Boone & Shannon sleeping together or Kate breaking her toy horse out of a bank vault?" They replied, "Well it was fun to laugh at it back then." Ha, now Lost laughs at you!

hey, you guys...
http://www.maddecent.com/mp3/lostegypt.jpg

from wikipedia:
Taweret became seen, very early in Egyptian history, as a deity of protection in pregnancy and childbirth. Pregnant women wore amulets with her name or likeness to protect their pregnancies. Her image could also be found on knives made from hippopotamus ivory, which would be used as wands in rituals to drive evil spirits away from mothers and children.

yeah, that sounds about right.
who wants to be alpert is some sort of immortal egyptian dude?. i mean...the eyeliner.

who wants to BET blah blah blah

who wants to http://www.thefadetoblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bet.jpg

Incidentally, you'd have thought the Dharma Initiative would have had the forsight to bring a proper doctor along with them to the mysterious magical island populated by hostile natives, wouldn't you?

I'm willing to accept he's been killed.

Are there any Egyptian gods that people haven't claimed the statue might be?

i read a theory that Richard Alpert = RA (sun god) = immortal pharaoh carrying on on the island while all his egyptian god friends have long died out. it seemed a bit too lol-stargate though.

hey does anyone remember when sawyer first met alpert? i don't recall a single scene they might have shared before this ep.

yeah obv they wouldn't build an entire 'infirmary' without an idea of some medical professional to oversee it, but i'm feeling like he got hostiled.
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they met during the bomb thing didn't they?

nah sawyer went off to rescue daniel from hot army chick while locke went to see alpert.

finally watched this episode

sawyer + juliet basically makes me want to kill myself

btw the statue is obviously sawyer, in a different time, appearing as a statue

baby is probably vincent

rose and bernard are jacob and have been this whole time

also--kate is still way hotter than juliet, its just that juliet, is like clean, and kate, is dirty--when theyre both cleaned up kate pwns her so

horace is a fantastic character, as i said above sci fi hippies are the best

also notice "horace" = "horse" maybe relates to sawyer appearing as a horse?

hey also when charlotte found the polar bear in the desert does that mean they sent a polar bear down the well or

nah i think kate looks stupid cleaned up, like she's playing dress up and it's not quite convincing.

in ancient egypt, throwing a polar bear down a well was a custom believed to promote good luck and also fertility

ronan bringing the egyptology knowledge, thanks

also the father figure was believed to transform into a horse after a successful conception. the horse was the symbol of a lazy, half assed transition into fatherhood.

i wonder if the actor who plays jin is relieved that he can start speaking in near-fluent english now

that's half his character gone in one fell swoop

he will still get to look into the camera and say ..... MONSTAH

The other half was the hardman/fixer whose heart wasn't in the job -- not much left.

xpost, hahaha

The guess is that Dharma was training the polar bears to turn the frozen donkey wheel, hence all the cage experiments and the bear showing up in Tunisia.

Kate is probably hotter than Juliet, it's just her hotness:annoyance ratio has gotten more and more off lately... (doesn't help that she's always been at least a little annoying)

max yr killing me

baby is probably vincent - no, it is obviously the horse.

also notice "horace" = "horse" maybe relates to sawyer appearing as a horse?

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max, let's cut to the chase.. come to Toronto so we can make love

i'm hoping for an odd couple style spin-off with lucien from undeclared and jimmy barrett.

baby is the smoke monster, guys, keep up