he's prob goodwin or ethan.
― Roz, Thursday, 5 March 2009 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah thanks prez keyes
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 5 March 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
really the only reason i don't think the baby's that important is because there's no male character left who's about charlotte's age or slightly younger whose parents we know nothing about.
although (drunk theory time) maybe the baby is Jacob? could explain why he's trapped in the cabin that his father Horace built. and if Jacob did order the purge, then that could tie in somehow with all the dad-killers on the show.
― Roz, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Ethan and/or Goodwin look too old to be that baby.
― 2nd-place ladyboy (Nicole), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Jacob is one of the only things I wondered about.
What if the baby is one of the Losties? This seems the sort of dumbass twist they might go for, haha.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"We've decided to name him...Paolo!"
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah and older charlotte's too young. she looked about two in 1974, that would make her 32 in 2004. xxp
― Roz, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
She takes care of herself okay
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
lol Paolo, Boone, or Charlie.
I can think of one reason why Charlotte is younger than she's supposed to be in the future - if she left the island via the frozen donkey wheel, she could've skipped a few years.
― Roz, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
seems like she probably just left via sub though
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link
where did the hot army chick go
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, baby born in 1977 = 27 in 2004. I can't think of any prominent Others that qualify.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, that baby has to be Jacob.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
hot army chick is eloise hawking, no?
― cutty, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
she got oldxpost
― yur twit (tehresa), Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, def. cannot wait until the next ep after seeing these:
http://www.docarzt.com/wp-content/gallery/lost-509-namaste/lost-509-namaste-_075.jpg
http://www.docarzt.com/wp-content/gallery/lost-509-namaste/lost-509-namaste-_080.jpg
http://www.docarzt.com/wp-content/gallery/lost-509-namaste/lost-509-namaste-_147.jpg
― lolling through my bagel (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
funny. didn't the writers say that they were leaving all the dharma initiative stuff behind sometime around season 3? ha
― cutty, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh, why is there a week off?
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
NAMASTE NEW RECRUITS! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLO
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, and she's a Hostile, like Alpert. So if she's still on the island, she wouldn't be in New Otherton.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
looking forward to easy on the ear sawyer humour about them all having boring dharma jobs
eg calling horace "hoss" in the last episode.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Ben in Season 4:Her name is Charlotte Lewis! Charlotte Staples Lewis. Born July second, nineteen seventy-nine, Essex, England. Parents David and Jeanette. Eldest of three, all girls. She was raised in Bromsgrove. Did her undergraduate studies at Kent. Took her PhD in Cultural Anthropology at Oxford. She's here with two other team members and a pilot. Their names Daniel Faraday, Miles Straume, Frank Lapidus.
Charlotte doesn't contradict this information, so apparently she believes that she was born in 1979, even though she looked like she was 2 in 1977?
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
it is confusing. she knew she had been there, but her memories were a bit fragmented, no? perhaps because of some sort of time-shift trauma?
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Unless 1979 is the date on her birth certificate (maybe manufactured by her mom?), but she secretly knows that she was born earlier:
CHARLOTTE: I grew up here...on the island. And there was this thing...this... Dharma Initiative. And then...I moved away with my mum. Just my mum...and...I never saw my dad again. And then when I got back to England, I would...I would...ask my mum about this place, yeah? But she would say that it wasn’t real...and that I’d made it up. That’s why... I became an anthropologist. To find this island again. It’s what...I’ve been searching for my whole life.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah maybe mom said she was born whatever year they left the island
― Local Garda, Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
somehow
even though she looked like she was 2 in 1977?
Actually, it's worse -- that was 1974. (Maybe it wasn't even her.)
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Seems like they're gonna be jumping through hoops to make all these timelines add up.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
if Charlotte disappeared and Sawyer's crew stayed, as Daniel said, does that mean her body flashed to 2008 where it "should" have been? Maybe Sun & Faraday will stumble across it, or Sayid. I guess she could have just stayed in whatever time they were in when she died though.
STATUE. I am reading on forums that it is probably Horus, often depicted holding an ankh. Weird, I saw a guy named Horace holding an ankh on some TV show last night. I see what you did there.
Funny: In this battle one of his eyes was injured and later it was healed by Hathor. This healing of the eye became a symbol of renewal. Sounds like the indestructible Mikhail "Patchy" Patcherson to me! ;) I guess his eye wasn't healed but everything else on him seems to heal and re-heal!
"Your buddy with the eyeliner" some writers have been reading the forums.. poor Nestor. He has stated time and again that no, no eyeliner, just fantastic eyelashes.
SERIOUSLY WHERE THE FUCK ARE ROSE AND BERNARD? If they did continue to flash in time with the others they are chilling on a beach with Vincent and some redshirts, wondering why they keep hearing Geronimo Jackson off in the distance, right?
Pleasepleasepleaseplease don't make us go into some vapid Jack/Kate/Sawyer/Juliet love triangle shit. I would like my #1 assholes Jack & Kate to stick together and annoy each other for the rest of their lives. Don't care one way or another about Sawyer and Juliet but I hate seeing Sawyer moon all over "freckles," ugh. Speaking of which, boo to Sawyer's 70s hair! And triple boo to Horace's terrible wig. He looked like Janet Jimplin.
Like everyone else I wonder.. who is Horace's son? Practically the only guys whose Dad we've never heard anything about are people like Ethan and Goodwin (but both too old, surely) - did we ever see Desmond's dad? What a kick if he was adpted & whisked away from the island in his infancy! When Horace meets baby Ben and his parents on the roadside in Portland, isn't he with a different woman? The name Olivia is kicking around in my head, but her name was Amy.. perhaps baby #2 will kill her. Where is Little Ben? Is Jin going to teach Charlotte Korean? As for her age discrepancy - when Locke left the island, all of a sudden it was three years later.. So maybe when Charlottte left same thing happened so her Mother had to change her birthdate?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
We posted some Horus eye stuff upthread-- I also saw some confusing stuff about how the Biblical Jacob was based on Horus or something.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
finefinefinemusic, all good points, but do you just post here without reading the thread or what?
― cutty, Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpgI want ya'll to play this at funerals in the hood.Til all this black on black crime stop.Some say the blind lead the blind.But in the ghetto you never know,When it's gon be yo time.http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons of Funk, Mo B. Dick, O'dell]Sittin at the ghetto thinkin boutAll my homies passed away (uuunnnggghhh!)Candy painted cadillacs and triple goldThat's how me and my boys rolledHow could it be?Somebody took my boy from meMy best friend's goneAnd I'm so all aloneI really miss my homiesEven though they gone awayI know you in a better placeAnd I hope to see ya soon somedayhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Master P]I used to hang with my boy even slang with my boyUsed to bang with my boy, goddam I miss my boyWe started out youngstas in the park throwin birdsIn your hearse, damn it's sad to see my nigga in the dirtThe game got me workin, got me perkin, never jerkinStill blowin dolja fo ya cause I know you up there workinYa little baby's cool and ya baby's mama straightBut today's a sad day to see the t-shirt with ya faceFrom the cradle to the grave, from the streets we used to fallIn the park you liked to ball, put yo name upon the wallIn the projects you's a legend on the street you was a starBut it's sad to see my homeboy ridin in that black carA lotta soldiers done died, a lotta mothers done criedYou done took yo piece of the pie but you was too young to retireWhy soldiers ride for yo name leave it vainSome Gs never change, damn they killed you for some changeSmile for my homie Kevin Miller my boy RandallThe ghetto persons that lost they loved ones to these ghetto scandalshttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpgTake a minute to smile for the dead (uuunnnggghhh!)Smile for the dead (RIP 2Pac, Makaveli) All my homies who done made it to the crossroads(Biggie Smalls)http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]How could it be?Somebody took my boy from me(It's like I can't believe you gone)My best friend's gone(Sometimes I feel like I can't go on)And I'm so all alone(Everytime I see something you done leftI really miss my homies(It just remind me, more and more of you, dawg)Even though they gone away(I just keep reminiscin)I know you in a better place(Cause I know you alright)And I hope to see ya soon someday(And I keep smilin, knowin I'm a see you in the crossroads]http://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Pimp C]We used to grip on the grain and flip them candy toysBut I'd give up all that bullshit if I could get back my boyOff in the club smokin weed til 3, hollerin at the hoesSpendin $4000 on me on gators and clothesWhen I turned to rap, he had to chase the gameNigga told me, "C, leave that dope, cause rappin is yo thang"I ain't gone even lie, some nights I ride and cryWonderin why the real niggas always the ones to dieSo I just smoke my weed and try to clear my mindI wish that I had the power to turn back the hands of timeI wonder if there's a heaven up there for real GsFor all the niggas in the game that be sellin keysI keep my memories, try to keep my head stromgBut baby it's hard to be strong, when yo main homie gonehttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]Even though you gone away(Even though you gone, you ain't never gon be forgotten)I know you in a better place(Cause as long as I'm hereYou gon live through me and other TRU playas)I really miss my homiesEven though they gone awayI know you in a better placeAnd I hope to see ya soon somedayhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg[Silkk]I'm just sittin here dazed thinkin bout all the times we hadThinkin the past, some was good and some was badRemember Dante?It was a group of us, just a group of fiveNow three dead, one in jail, it seem right now I'm the only one aliveTo all my soldiers before me, may ya'll rest in peaceWhen He took three, took my soul, just the bodiesHe at the crossroads guide us out to the rest of meWishin I could rewind time like demosMe and you gettin girls, writin down numbers like memosMakin million dollar bets, makin all our money stretch like limosEven though I smile, it's sad, but they say gangstas can't cryBut if I close my eyes and visualize me togetherThen I suddenly wanna smileTo see you laid down when it's yo time, when your time was upYou never seen your child, but he's here to remind usEven though you was wrong, I never could belive that that was trueYou was with me forever, you could check my rest in peace tattoosSee me and C and P forever gon be ridin and thugginRest in peace to all the ones that didn't make itAnd rest in peace to my brotherWe gon miss youhttp://images.lowriderarte.com/drawings/0701_lrap_06_z+drawings+notorious_big.jpg(I love these fools)I know you in a better place(Every time I get on my knees)And I hope to see ya soon someday(I pray for you, I'm glad you in a better placeI hope I see ya soon, ain't no more killinAin't no more fights, and ain't no more tears)
― pasantino R.I.P. - pour out a 40 of boss hogg (and what), Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
nah cutty I read the thread (and some other forums) and sort of keep notes in a notepad file because otherwise I would be doing 50 xposts a day late :)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
that was because I care about Rose and Bernard, isn't it?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 March 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
so did yall notice on the wiki page what the heiroglyphic symbol for Horus is
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_G5.png
the lil bird that came up on the number-flipper when they didn't hit the button
― dmr, Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
No Rose & Bernard visible in the Dharma compound--probably with the Others?
Call me cold hearted, but I kinda hope that Rose & Bernard have been sucked into some black hole vacuum & remain there for the rest of the series.― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, February 6, 2009 7:32 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkSee, I would rather watch them die, personally.― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, February 6, 2009 7:33 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkI'd like to see Walt fling birds at them with his mind.― Local Garda, Friday, February 6, 2009 7:35 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, February 6, 2009 7:32 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
See, I would rather watch them die, personally.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, February 6, 2009 7:33 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'd like to see Walt fling birds at them with his mind.
― Local Garda, Friday, February 6, 2009 7:35 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
love your username PB, at least once a day I ask my boyfriend "I have two ears and a heart, don't I?"
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
damn I can't wait for THIS episode
By the Nineteenth dynasty, the enmity between Set and Horus, in which Horus had ripped off one of Set's testicles, was represented as a separate tale. According to Papyrus Chester-Beatty I, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance by seducing Horus and then having intercourse with him. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently throws it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set. Horus then deliberately spreads his own semen on some lettuce, which was Set's favorite food (the Egyptians thought that lettuce was phallic). After Set has eaten the lettuce, they go to the gods to try to settle the argument over the rule of Egypt. The gods first listen to Set's claim of dominance over Horus, and call his semen forth, but it answers from the river, invalidating his claim. Then, the gods listen to Horus' claim of having dominated Set, and call his semen forth, and it answers from inside Set.[9]
― dmr, Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost: why thank you Jane, She is a Clerk
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost On the podcast Damon & Carlton said that Rose & Bernard are not dead. So they have to be somewheres.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
curses!
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
"I'm gone ten minutes and you're having a hootenanny?!?"
^^ love this guy as creepy dude in David Lynch film
― mh, Thursday, 5 March 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm getting kind of tired of internet losties getting their panties in a twist about symbolism and details and trying to predict shit with it. Other than really obvious ones (Jeremy Bentham's corpse on display -> Locke's corpse on display) these never really pan out into plot-predicting bits, the writers just throw shit in. Two Egyptian references do not a plot revelation make.(expecting to be wrong on this)
I love how whenever Miles gets an order he's still all about "uh, why don't you... whatever you said."
― mh, Thursday, 5 March 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude- we've been seeing hieroglyphics since SSN 2 at least.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Of course all the religion symbolism is going to end up being just that. It'll end up being as simple as good vs. evil and who is on which side. Horus, for the Egyptians, was good, and his enemy Set was evil (his red hair proved it.)
― President Keyes, Thursday, 5 March 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
(his red hair proved it.) - OMG Charlotte is eeeevil.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 March 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh right I couldn't work out why Sawyer called Daniel 'Play-doh'.
Loved the big statue tease.Was Paul meant to be anyone significant?I know it's only me who finds this completely hilarious but they are going right out of their way now to hide everyone's heads until the last possible millisecond reveal - even when you know who it's going to be like Juliet under that van. Bag over Michelle Dessler's head was getting desperate. This is totally a dumb question but how do we know it's 1974 when they first meet the Dharmas and stop flashing? (If it flashed up onscreen I missed it).
― Not the real Village People, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
JAMES FUCKING SAWYER, PEOPLE!
― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
u talkin abt le fleur?
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
how do we know it's 1974
in one of the 3 Years Later bits Sawyer says that it's 1977. 1977-3 = 1974.
― ! (Clay), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link