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cf comments here:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/obama-on-the-st.html

Eppy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That said I bet Hillary was sorta trying to mess with him by walking right over there in a bright red suit to shake hands with Ted Kennedy.

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

. . . she was gonna start a fistfight until Kennedy cut her off.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

NH Union Leader is PISSED at Hil:

Hillary's word: It's worth nothing

14 hours, 42 minutes ago

COURTING VOTERS in Iowa and New Hampshire, last August Sen. Hillary Clinton signed a pledge not to "campaign or participate" in the Michigan or Florida Democratic primaries. She participated in both primaries and is campaigning in Florida. Which proves, again, that Hillary Clinton is a liar.

Clinton kept her name on the Michigan ballot when others removed theirs, she campaigned this past weekend in Florida, and she is pushing to seat Michigan and Florida delegates at the Democratic National Convention. The party stripped those states of delegates as punishment for moving up their primary dates.

"I will try to persuade my delegates to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida," Clinton said last week, after the New Hampshire primaries and Iowa caucuses were safely over.

Clinton coldly and knowingly lied to New Hampshire and Iowa. Her promise was not a vague statement. It was a signed pledge with a clear and unequivocal meaning.

She signed it thinking that keeping the other candidates out of Michigan and Florida was to her advantage, but knowing she would break it if that proved beneficial later on. It did, and she did.

New Hampshire voters, you were played for suckers.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Hillary's+word:+It's+worth+nothing&articleId=0853268a-d982-4190-81e8-740ae942f510

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

she's got the red suit! retreat!

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Glad you think it's a silly story too Daria, and I agree Clinton was probably trying to instigate something like this just by walking over there. But I mean... keeping this story alive is basically Clinton strategy today. This is their end game.

Hatch, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey you know one of the advantages of being a woman candidate is that you can wear any bright color suit you want.

Union Leader is a Republican paper AFAIK they don't even endorse a Democrat.

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey you know one of the advantages of being a woman candidate is that you can wear any bright color suit you want.

Obama couldn't get away with wearing a red suit before Labor Day.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

True, they endorsed McCain. But obviously I, for one, would like the "Hillary is a contract-breaking opportunist" to be the media narrative for a couple days.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the media's driving it, guess there was a lot of chatter in the press gallery (some pundit wrote that) again probably because Bush said nothing interesting whatsoever (sad - what happened to mars, bitches?)

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

the interpretation of who-didn't-greet-whom is fucking retarded, let's please move on

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember lol'ing so hard @ the Mars thing.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Human-animal hybrids

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

can we call an ilx-wide moratorium on not jumping up and down in a pavlovian frenzy to whatever bullshit controversy the media is drumming up to sustain interest in this race between three pretty good candidates? i usually find ilx somewhat sane on things like this and i'm starting to feel like half of you of been body-snatched and replaced by youtube commenters

xpost yeah elmo!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

hydrogen-powered cars

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

government blogging team

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

"i want to send you the check TODAY"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

school uniforms

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

can we call an ilx-wide moratorium on not jumping up and down in a pavlovian frenzy to whatever bullshit controversy the media is drumming up to sustain interest in this race between three pretty good candidates?

I tried to resist posting the Drudge-like goofy-looking-politican photo, but, you know, it's a pretty good one compositionally.

Eazy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Jay Smooth weighs in, awesome-as-usual, on HANDSHAKEGATE.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

the three pretty good candidates i had in mind by the way are pauly shore, dan cortese, and kennedy

ROCK THE VOTE

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.eurielec.etsit.upm.es/%7Ebisho/blog_files/vote_or_die.jpg

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

SWITCHGRASS

gff, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

switchgraiss

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Gorey thoughts - http://nymag.com/daily/intel/early_and_often/

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

was hoping that would be edward gorey's endorsement

and what, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, that was a pretty dramatic article

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I just read Dan Cortese is producing some stupid reality show for nbc. Why is he still working? I wonder if he hangs out with Eric Nies.

Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

best reality show ever

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

This picture!

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/08/01/29_hauntinghillary_lg.jpg

Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd be less surprised if gore came out and endorsed a candidate (if he endorses anybody, it'll be obama) now than if he did a few months back, obviously. the kennedy endorsement makes it seem a bit more likely.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't stop looking at that picture.

Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone heard anything credible about the GOP vote today in Florida? Early exit polls, perhaps?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/08/01/29_hauntinghillary_lg.jpg
I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS

max, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

guys I hear gore can control migrating birds with his mind, too

Eppy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/08/01/29_hauntinghillary_lg.jpg

"You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I like where these captions are going already.

was hoping that would be edward gorey's endorsement

Haha, same here. From BEYOND THE GRAVE (which would be even better).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

An Inconvenient Boo!

Okay, that's my Custos quota filled for the day.

Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/2229468414_5fb28d1298.jpg

Eppy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

OK searching Google images for Ted Kennedy is not a good idea

daria-g, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.thesimpsonsquotes.com/images/quimbywave.gif

Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Uggggg. . . Not Feeling Mittmentum.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Romney still has his considerable personal financial fortune to draw on, and the Florida primary is certainly neck-and-neck. The question remains, however, whether Romney could continue spending through the Feb. 5 array of primaries at the high levels necessary for him to capitalize on a Florida win.

As opposed to broke-ass McCain?

Eppy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

OPO: David Brooks or the boomers.

Kennedy went on to talk about the 1960s. But he didn’t talk much about the late-60s, when Bill and Hillary came to political activism. He talked about the early-60s, and the idealism of the generation that had seen World War II, the idealism of the generation that marched in jacket and ties, the idealism of a generation whose activism was relatively unmarked by drug use and self-indulgence.

Eppy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

do you guys really think the democratic party are really that stupid?

I think they totally is. In an unlimited kinda way.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

OPO: David Brooks or the boomers

Brooks

gabbneb, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

do you guys really think the democratic party are really that stupid?

Y.E.S.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

oh brooks. ima go and march in a suit and tie so that everyone knows im that good kind of protester, and not decadent.

im curious to see what the recreate 68 group does at the democratic convention here in denver.

Join us in the streets of Denver as we resist a two-party system that allows imperialism and racism to continue unrestrained.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Not sure what to make of this, but exit polls show the percentage of Floridians who cast votes in the GOP primary today and are self-described conservatives is higher today than it was in 1992.

So Florida's GOP electorate has moved to the right over the past 15 years. But how does this impact tonight's crucial race?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Unless, of course, Florida's GOP electorate is simply SMALLER than it was in 1992, i.e. the less conservative former GOP voters have gone Dem or stayed home.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link


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